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originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Muffenstuff
Apparently Babylon, old Ur ect were patterned after the pre-diluvian empire/world system.
Ok as far as the confusion O don't understand how they got Cain all wrong and Tubal Cain. Seth and Cain were separate lines of Adam. It looks like Noah's sons Ham and to some extent Japheth keep the mystery system alive even after what they saw before.
originally posted by: Muffenstuff
a reply to: Logarock
Cain built a city called Enoch after his son, Enoch.
Phoenicia was named after Hanok/Enoch although which one is a mystery. They were named that by the Greeks after Pa Hanok or the house of Enoch although it is said to be because of the purple dye they were famous for its easy to see that Phoenix or Phoenicians is from Egypt and for whatever reason the Greeks called them Phoenicians because of a connection to Pa Hanok, Phoenix, the famous bird being a symbol written about in Enochian scripture book 2 or Slavonic Enoch.
By means of this separation, one man became an astronomer, another a magician, another a cabalist, and a fourth an alchemist. Abraham, that Vulcanic Tubalcain, a consummate astrologer and arithmetician, carried the Art out of the land of Canaan into Egypt, whereupon the Egyptians rose to so great a height and dignity that this wisdom was derived from them by other nations.
It looks like that Noah's sons were divided but both lines of Cain and Seth had Enoch
Phoenix, the famous bird being a symbol written about in Enochian scripture book 2 or Slavonic Enoch.
Genesis 4:22 says that Tubal-cain was the "forger of all instruments of bronze and iron" (ESV) or an "instructor of every artificer in brass and iron" (KJV). Although this may mean he was a metalsmith, a comparison with verses 20 and 21 suggests that he may have been the very first artificer in brass and iron. T. C. Mitchell suggests that he "discovered the possibilities of cold forging native copper and meteoric iron." Tubal-cain has even been described as the first chemist.
Others connect Tubal-cain's work to making weapons of war. Rashi notes that he "spiced and refined the Cain's craft to make weapons for murderers." In The Antiquities of the Jews, Flavius Josephus says that "Tubal exceeded all men in strength, and was very expert and famous in martial performances, ... and first of all invented the art of working brass." Walter Elwell suggests that his invention of superior weapons may have been the motivation for Lamech's interest in avenging blood.
Alternatively, E. E. Kellett suggests that Tubal-cain may have been a miner.
On the NewsRadio television show, in an episode called Rose Bowl, Joe the electrician teaches Jimmy James the secret masonic word "Tubalcain" that allows freemasons to ignore justice and might automatically win him a particular court case irrespective of justice.
originally posted by: InachMarbank
Enoch was begat by Jared.
"And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:"
~ Genesis 5:18