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EXCLUSIVE: Bill Clinton Got Millions From World’s Biggest Sharia Law Education Firm

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posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
looking further into it, I find that they have schools all over the world, each one providing the curriculum that meets the requirements for accreditation in the country they are in. my guess is that they are only teaching sharia law in those countries that require it to be taught. and while they are obligated to do this, they are also giving the kids a much deeper understanding to the sciences and tech skills. these are private schools, teaching pre-k and beyond.


Well, I wondered that.
So, I asked the GEMS Education school in Chicago, via on-line chat.
I could not get much information. I'm not sure why they would not just answer me Yes or No.
Its possible that they just really wanted my contact information so that they could bug the heck out of me, as any worthy salesperson would do.
Maybe someone who speaks the language could get a better response.
But - it seemed like a simple question:



GEMS World Academy-Chicago Live Chat
Chatting with Marion

Marion: Hello, thanks for contacting GEMS World Academy-Chicago. My name is Marion, may I have your name?

You: Do you teach based on Sharia Law?

Marion: Hi, someone from our office can help with this. May I have your name please?

Marion: Are you with me?

You: Why can't you tell me?

Marion: I apologize, I do not have access to the information. For your convenience, I can have the information emailed. Would that be okay?

You: Does that mean yes you do?

Marion: I can have the information emailed from our office.

You: I did not know there would be a chance for my child here.

Marion: I understand your concern. I apologize, I don't have access to that information, but will be happy to forward your request to someone from our office who can help you. What is a good number and/or email address to reach you?

You: I dont want to get into trouble for asking

Marion: I can understand your concern and we respect your privacy. We need your information for correspondence with our office, regarding your inquiry. We only contact visitors who have asked to be contacted.

You: where can i find information?

Marion: We can be reached at *redacted phone number*. Our email address is *redacted email*

Marion: Is there anything else I can help you with?

Marion: Thank you for contacting GEMS World Academy-Chicago.




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posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

It appears you may be correct. The teaching of sharia law may only be in areas in which it is required. From their site:


In accordance with the UAE Ministry of Education by-laws, students who are Muslim (as identified on their passport or during the admissions process via the “religion” option) must take Islamic Education until the end of Grade 12. Students may take Islamic A (in Arabic) or Islamic B (in English) regardless of their nationality based on their Arabic language proficiency. The Islamic A and B courses incorporate the Ministry of Education syllabus for Islamic Education within the curriculum.


www.gemsworldacademy-dubai.com...

This appears to be a non-issue. More outrage for the misinformed.



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

That's an odd conversation you had. There are better ways to go about getting information.

Anyway, I have called the Academy and was able to speak to Marion. I asked, politely, to be referred to the person in charge of public/press relations and was immediately transferred to that individual.

I was not able to talk to them and left a voice message. Will update if I hear back from them.

Edit:

Public relations/Director of Communications is Jeff Puma.
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posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 04:14 PM
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Good luck with that. I was not about to give them my phone number.
Be prepared for tons of calls that you don't want.

Do you really think that you are going to get a straight answer from their public relations department?

But of course, please let us know if you do.

I think the best way to get a truthful answer would be if someone Muslim called them, and understood how to ask, while pretending to be a parent interested in sending their child to the school.




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posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 04:20 PM
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Chicago has over 300,000 Muslim, so I would imagine a school that teaches the faith that they follow would be popular there.
There are at least 94 mosques in Chicago.


source



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah



Good luck with that. I was not about to give them my phone number. Be prepared for tons of calls that you don't want.


Why would you think that? I contacted the Director of Communications, not the admissions office. I have absolutely no reason to fear giving them my number.



Do you really think that you are going to get a straight answer from their public relations department?


Regarding a question about their curriculum? Yes. They have to because that is easily verifiable. You can see what subjects they teach.

www.gemsworldacademy-chicago.com...



I think the best way to get a truthful answer would be if someone Muslim called them, and understood how to ask, while pretending to be a parent interested in sending their child to the school.


That is why you made that silly statement in your conversation with Marion.



You: I did not know there would be a chance for my child here.


We're you trying to pass yourself off as a Muslim interested in Islamic studies for your child?

I don't think it matters. You can easily see what subjects they teach and it appears they only teach Islamic issues in countries in which it is required.



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: introvert

No, I was not sure what to ask
I was winging it. I expected an answer, and he would not answer. I would not know how to begin portraying a Muslim, so I did not even try.

I was also busy with 12 other things when I had his chat window open.



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 04:34 PM
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GEMS used to be called "Global Education Management Systems".

That concerns me. I don't think we need the word "Global" in the same name as "Education".
Global education sounds like a bad idea.


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posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Well Marion, the person you chatted with, is a woman and she is also the receptionist, along with one other woman. She was pleasant to speak to and it appears it is her job to answer phones and chat requests in order to direct them to the right people to answer questions.

If you had asked about admissions issues, she would have transferred you to the admissions office. Tuition questions? Perhaps to accounting.

A question like this would be handled by the Communications office, which is led by Jeff Puma.

I see nothing nefarious here, considering the little bit of research I have done. I highly doubt Sharia Law is part of the curriculum here in the US.



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 07:32 PM
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Global education sounds like a bad idea.


and just how many schools are being run by christian groups around the world?? one could say that the catholics are involved in practically global education...



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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and, I just had a nice chat with Marion...
to be honest, she kind of sounds like she is an automated customer service program. I don't think you are gonna get many answers from her.



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 08:02 PM
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That's a good point.
But Sharia law is totally different.
They are on a mission - to build a caliphate.
And Sharia law has some scary rules that are not compatible with Western society.
So, its a bit different than most religious schools.



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

Even if Sharia Law is not taught in U.S. based schools, this does not
seem it would negate the fact that GEMS still donates 8% to
Jihadist supporting "charity"?



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

have you really looked at their websites?? I am just asking because I really don't see any indication that their mission is to spread islamic teachings. I imagine if they are teaching in india, they are more inclined to teach the religions from that country if they teach any.

and those catholic schools are on a mission also, that's why they are considered to be part of the missionary work.
One of my friends was pure native american and she can tell you some nice stories about those catholic run indian schools. she still has a pretty big chip on her shoulders because of her experience with them!



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

Yes, I have looked at their web sites in detail.


originally posted by: BlueAjah
GEMS EDUCATION SOLUTIONS

"Ensure that vocational programmes are delivered according to Islamic principles, and where relevant, Sharia law "



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posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 09:03 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

that is a requirement from the job posting for
Director of Islamic and Cultural Studies - Colleges of Excellence - Saudi Arabia




The role of Director of Islamic and Cultural Studies carries the following job scope and responsibilities;

· Act in an advisory role to the Principals and other senior managers across the TOP colleges on Islamic beliefs and culture

· Provide Islamic instruction and guidance to young women in the TOP colleges

· Enable Islamic principles to be incorporated into teaching and learning

· Develop and deliver comprehensive Islamic and Saudi Arabian cultural studies learning resource and study programmes

· Ensure that vocational programmes are delivered according to Islamic principles, and where relevant, Sharia law

· Support the appointment, induction and professional development of staff and consultants to support Islamic learning and cultural development across the TOP colleges
Qualifications and experience

· A degree or Diploma

· Evidence of continuing commitment to self-development through courses and research undertaken.

· A clear vision about the role of Islamic and cultural studies in an innovative internationally-focused vocational curriculum.

· Proven ability to develop and manage staff

· A good understanding of teaching and learning methodologies

· A demonstrable commitment to equality and tackling discrimination

· Preference will be given to a Saudi national, or if that is not possible, a GCC national





Application process

If you feel that you meet the above criteria we would welcome your application. Please note that, due to segregation as mentioned above, we are looking for Female applicants only at this stage.
Please submit your full CV and letter of application to Leonora.dowley@gemseducation.com by the closing date of 30th September 2014.



do yous realize that just about every company that is located in saudi arabia has zakat taxed on them? so let's use your logic here... how many politicians, on both sides of the political spectrum get funds from the big oil companies that have operations in saudi arabia that are funding jihad?? maybe they should all be disqualified from political office?

and every private school in the country I bet has to teach Islamic principles and sharia laws?

and I'd be willing to be that all of our ambassadors, and employees of these companies that can afford to send their kids to these private schools are doing so, because they are a heck of a lot better option than those being offered by the saudi gov't or islamic religious groups!

while I can't understand why anyone would want trump as president, I can understand why some might not like the idea of hillary being there (I's not that fond of the idea myself). but this crucifying anything and everything that can be connected to the clintons just hoping that some of it will stick is pure unadulterated crap!



I highly doubt if they'd be looking for one of these in their chicago school!



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

And... why was Bill Clinton supporting a company that pays money to terrorists?



posted on Aug, 5 2016 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: BlueAjah

bill clinton was supporting a company that operated schools in many different countries, some of which are in Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia. there are very few companies in saudi arabia that are allowed to operate without being partially being owned by a KSA/GCC partner represented by a Saudi state-owned entity or a KSA/GCC private businessman and subject to zakat.




And finally, the rules for zakat should soon be consolidated and codified in a single regulation document. Zakat is an obligatory payment originating from the religious rules of Islam. Originally, the requirements were addressed to individuals and only in recent times have rules for corporate zakat payers been developed. In substance it applies to the part of a business that is ultimately owned by KSA/GCC nationals. Given that most large business ventures in the Kingdom have a KSA/GCC partner represented by a Saudi state-owned entity or a KSA/GCC private businessman, most businesses are inevitably affected by zakat rules.


so, one would have to ask...
considering just how much taxmoney is used to support oil companies in the middle east in all kinds of ways... why is the govt supporting companies that are supporting terrorism, using the same logic you seem to be using?



posted on Aug, 6 2016 @ 12:44 AM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: BlueAjah

Bill Clinton has also been GEMS honorary chairman during this time,
he must agree with the 10% that goes to Jihadist funding?

Correcting myself: it is 8% not 10.

GEM uses one-eighth of the proceeds of its schools "to fund Islamic Jihad


So let me get this straight, Bill Clinton is Chairman
over a percentage of terrorist jihad, some of which
is perpetrated upon his own country, the United States?

Mind blown!


great thread .

1/8 ... one eighth

is 12.5 %


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posted on Aug, 6 2016 @ 12:49 AM
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They supplied the GAS used on the Kurds.www.thecommonsenseshow.com...



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