Tea Party Crashed by Kansas Voters - GET OUT!

a reply to: diggindirt

Just to be clear here, I think Bush, Clinton and Obama should be sharing a jail cell awaiting their trials.

Sir, Yes Sir! Got it!! Okay Sir!!!!!

I agree with you.
I just don't think Trump is the one to take the place.

Bernie. Bernie was the best candidate.
Thanks, though, for your contribution and for engaging in intelligent debate and dialogue.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I tell them I am Klingon and leave usually ...and those who REALLY know will say "He' is" and we have what we have.
POPULAR cultural traits SUCK.
I don't care about who's is move valuable /right ...they BITE.
So rather than attempt to identify myself by a nominal demographic I just go full nerd and claim Klingon. It's about the ONLY way for a crusty vet to socialize among younger types.
ART as well but most don't want to put in the work and push to get good at it.

a reply to: cavtrooper7



I appreciate you sharing that.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

DOESN'T change the fact I feel excessively and unfairly CORNERED. for a few lousy black rifles no one sees...
Not to mention My wife's from Liberal...
WAY more Christian than I am ...lots of crusties from that one...

a reply to: cavtrooper7

I really would like to be able to have a lucid conversation with you, cav.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Just realize you may want to change your bumper stickers, because the posers have stolen your logo.

I hurts to see you this 'right'. LOL

Personal to Cav: I'm right there with ya, brother. All the way to the end. Can't change our minds, can they?

a reply to: Snarl



Sorry. Some days are really hard.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Snarl
Sorry. Some days are really hard.

Don't be sorry. My acknowledgment of 'you being right' was one of only a handful of compliments posted to the board in my three years as a contributing member of ATS.

The Tea Party 'is' America's silent majority. We just don't have anyone to rally around. All the people that get under your skin ... get under mine too.

I contributed to Ron Paul's campaign. Not because I liked everything he stood for, but because he was different. The Koch bros would make every road in America a toll road. Big differences there ... but I paid for the right to trounce Ron's reputation at my leisure, and I have 'liberally' when people have found my trigger.

And ... the majority of the Koch's platform is fine by me. I don't believe the rich corporate bastards (Trump included) should be allowed any influence in politics whatsoever ... nor do I think the tax-man should collect a part of my paycheck to bail them out when their crony president say so.

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

The Tea Party movement as begun by Ron Paul stands for fiscal conservatism, a limited Constitutional government, individual rights, a humble foreign policy and sound money, among other things.

Not sure what these guys in KS were up to but if they support these ideals, I dont see a problem.

Ted Cruz was abandoned by Ron Paul supporters some time ago.

I have relatives in Kansas City and I used to be a Ron Paul supporter until I realized that Paul's (and Sanders) dream of revamping our society does not work.

As others have said, Kansas is sadly a hardcore red state outside of Kansas City. They put Brownback in as their governor because he promised all of the things that a typical republican preaches...limited govt., tax cuts, and "christian" values.

Generally, Brownback has succeeded in getting all that a republican platform wants. The problem comes when these sales pitches becomes reality.

The tax cuts have crippled the state that it has been called a "budget crisis" by many news outlets. 1000's have actually lost their jobs, the state's credit rating has been downgraded twice, businesses leaving KS, and they've had across the board cuts in spending from education to public works to medicine. It is so bad in KS right now, that the previous 4 KS governors (republican and democrat) have come together and urged Brownback to step down. I have never heard of such a thing happening before in my life.

Brownback has the lowest approval rating of all governors in the US. This is the real implications of the tea party policies and the reason why I decided that Ron Paul's policies would not work today. The downside of these policies are so severe that it has crippled KS and it will take over a decade to recover. Trump has the same economic policies. If he becomes president, KS is a precursor of things to come for our country.

To end this post, do you know what Brownback asked KS citizens to do to lift the state out of its demise.....wait for it.........fasting and prayers.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

DOESN'T change the fact I feel excessively and unfairly CORNERED. for a few lousy black rifles no one sees...
Not to mention My wife's from Liberal...
WAY more Christian than I am ...lots of crusties from that one...

whoa. Hey.....I have noticed that your writing reflects a character that is very keyed up - that is on the verge of explosion on most days, and merely waiting for a way to do it.

This seriously worries me.


How about we all let this thread die...eh??? Yes, please.

a reply to: SeekingAlpha

THANK YOU so much for posting here.
This is the kind of participation that helps all of us get down to the truth.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs
I agree completely. Trump isn't the one that needs to be in the Oval Office.
Gary Johnson is a far better choice for the average citizen than either of the major party candidates. Executive experience and a wish to serve the people by lifting the burdens with which the federal system has saddled them.

Bernie is no longer in the race. He conceded and threw in with the Wall St. Woman after it became clear that she had conspired to rob him of the race. I will admit that there is a part of me that admires someone who can smile at the person who stabbed them in the back. But he did leave the party....so there's that.

Back on topic: I watched the Tea Party movement be co-opted by the mullahs and pubahs in the Republican party. People with piles of money to spend secretly. It was actually pretty easy for those of us who have long been involved in grassroots movements to recognize. When thousands of professionally printed signs and t-shirts started showing up, it was easy to see that it was no longer a grassroots movement. Yes, there were disgruntled Democrats in that movement as well.

It is my firm hope and prayer that, having watched each major party suppress their own votes (Paul and Sanders) and play dirty tricks on their own people the electorate will look beyond those two parties to a larger degree than ever in the past century. Just half a dozen independents added in the halls of each legislature (state and federal) would be a huge step forward.

a reply to: [post=21094437]Snarl[/post
2 deaths this year are hard I've been saving all those explosions for "whom it may concern" one day ,SO FAR nothing warrants a violent hand at all.
I don't dwell on fighting I dwell on ideas.
I don't like this world so I argue with it and see who wins.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Do you think you're winning?

I'd beg to differ.
But I wouldn't want to really cross you - you are rather unpredictably prone to outbursts. Sorta like Trump, so I see why you would identify with him.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I'm NOT finished with the conversation with it...

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Okay, I just hope you keep educating yourself. Check your reply box - I posted a vid for you on another thread.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

At the time, I hadn't realized the tragedy occurred in Kansas. So sorry.

Did Gov. Brownback's Lax Regulation Oversight Lead To Tragic Waterslide Death?

The Kansas Department of Labor also regulates amusement park rides. In fact, state law allows state officials to conduct spot safety inspections, but the number of state employees in that department has been slashed by a third in recent years. The Schlitterbahn employee told FOX 4 she never saw a single state inspection in the multiple years she has worked there.

Kansas has a national reputation for providing minimal state oversight at amusement parks. FOX 4 Problem Solvers asked the Kansas Department of Labor for any inspection reports on the park, but we have yet to receive them.

Yep, Kansas govt was being made smaller in order to drown it in a bathtub. To return to a time of "buyer beware", or in this instance, Rider Beware.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

FINALLY, the stupid people see the light.


And they are stupid just like in NJ and Louisiana where GOP conservative policies ruined those states as in Kansas.


When are the American people going to realize conservative GOP DOGMA DOESN’T WORK AND NEVER EVER VOTE THEM IN AGAIN


These stupid people learned the hard way as they doubled down on misery and voted Brownback in twice.

a reply to: Willtell

Thanks. Yes. That is what happened.
Some people have to learn the hard way. But that's okay.
"Theory" is (rightly) doubted until it is tried out in practice. Kansas tried it out. Then (predictably) collapsed like a flan in a cupboard.

a reply to: desert

The Schlitterbahn employee told FOX 4 she never saw a single state inspection in the multiple years she has worked there.

Kansas has a national reputation for providing minimal state oversight at amusement parks. FOX 4 Problem Solvers asked the Kansas Department of Labor for any inspection reports on the park, but we have yet to receive them.

Schlitterbahn? LOL!!!!! The "multiple years" can't have been that long. They just barely got their 'world's tallest water slide' built, and it doesn't work. Opening was delayed for most of those "multiple years".

I live 10 minutes from there. I drive past the site regularly.

Coming along SLOWLY is putting it nicely. Since that outfit started, separate, unrelated developers have managed to plan, build, complete, and open other establishments: a casino, a high-rise office complex (Cerner), and a Soccer Stadium (Sporting KC).....

Schlitterbahn has been languishing and lolly-gagging. Or, just broke. Hell, I don't know.
It's not at all what it was cracked up to be when they first started out. There was supposed to be a destination resort hotel, and bunch of "treehouse rental" units, a complicated water park and lots of rides (like Six Flags or Oceans of Fun.)

Yeah - none of that has happened. And that plan was introduced about 8 years ago.
I don't know what happened legally or financially, but I do know that some projects here are completed swiftly and impressively (a brand new luxury condo campus has recently been completed just north of the "Kansas Speeday") and other projects are abandoned at least temporarily.