originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: AmericanRealist
The only reason why i was suggesting population reduction was because that would be the most simple way to help create a society that treats animals
Well it is certainly the most direct
way to achieve that goal, but in no way is it a simple task. Just hear the reactions you are getting to
the very idea of it. I got 5 kids myself, not going to be an easy sell. However that does not mean it will be impossible.
We just need to figure out how to sell the message with a feeling of happiness greater than the propaganda that sells the encouragement of an increase
birth rate. Part of that effort would require the De-sexualization of a significant part of the marketing industry.
Everything from cars to hamburgers, cell phones, clothes, video games, even time shares and especially cosmetics and weight loss is sold with a sexual
image. Beautiful provocative women eating, driving, using the phone an the allure of drawing them in for the viewer by purchasing and owning those
products, services or lifestyles is not only designed to make it easier to sell what is being marketed. There is also another underlying theme that
goes with that, and that is an increased birth rate.
Our brains have already been studied by the wealthiest with hundreds of billions over the decades, so marketing know exactly what images and words
elicit the responses they are looking for. What it takes now, is concerned citizens and organizations, taking that same data, and flipping the switch.
that is probably the most realistic approach that would effectively lead to the fulfillment of the goal of a reduced birth rate and population
Your main factor will be, how much money can you raise to pay for this marketing across various industries? The other being, that population reduction
does not bode well for the current system of Capitalism. The very concept is to continue growth indefinitely. That does not work if the population
goes down, because so will consumption.
So although it would benefit the animals with a reduction of meat, there will be a economically apocalyptic reduction in consumer goods and industry
contraction as well.
However, with the sheer volume of humans joining the hive mind today and going into the future, it is clear that these types of efforts could in fact
already be demonstrating success with the new generations who are much likelier to succumb to propaganda with less resistance.
It will be a multi-generational endeavor across all industries, but it always starts with one, and the others who jump on board. As long as one person
or group are making these efforts in their city/county/state/or nation, others will eventually agree and follow through themselves.
The biggest thing to consider is to not get frustrated because it didn't happen yesterday, or is going on fact enough today. Real progress happens
gradually over time, a single step at a time. Best thing as a consumer, is to research the companies/products/and services which fit your goals and
objectives in line with their mission statements within your budget and educate others. The ones trying to change their methods can only continue to
do so when they measure positive results. That can only happen as conscientious consumers switch to their model.
So while I always look at the realistic variables involved with such grand goals, I am always on board to research ways to achieve them.
Curbside recycling is much more prevalent in the US now than it was 20 and 30 years ago. Electronics and appliance recycling is now a thriving
industry compared to even ten years ago. These are all positive steps.
Hormones are not being added to our milk anymore, the Organic food industry is growing every year. It just takes time to switch because progress has
to be made when one human at a time makes the choice to change, and that $$ speaks to the business involved.
We could go the China route, but in lands that have grown with freedom and liberty as their core values, it would end up costing drastically through
civil unrest and outright war. This country is only about two more presidential terms away from going full throttle in a more socialistic way of
conducting business and policy, so you should see some measurable gains. Unfortunately it is always going to go hand in hand with violent resistance,
and I won't blame anyone for it.