What is the Opposite of Discriminate?

So, I notice that I tend to give attractive, female waitresses more than the normal 15% gratuity. The normal gratuity in the U.S. is usually considered to be 15%. Since I give MORE to attractive women would that be proscriminating? Although that doesn't appear to be a word.

Just curious how it all works.

Incriminate?

I tip people by how friendly and how efficient they are, not by how they look. But then again, I am an efficiency freak. That still is a sort of discrimination based on job preformance.

a reply to: Metallicus

That is giving personal favor to a certain group. If you tip unattractive waitresses less, though they have done just as good of a job as the ones you find attractive, that is a form of discrimination.

originally posted by: Metallicus
So, I notice that I tend to give attractive, female waitresses more than the normal 15% gratuity. The normal gratuity in the U.S. is usually considered to be 15%. Since I give MORE to attractive women would that be proscriminating? Although that doesn't appear to be a word.

Just curious how it all works.

More sexism really..

Technically still discriminating, since you are doing something extra for no other reason than her appearance. But I don't know the word for it exactly.

ETA: According to most places these words would be considered the opposite:

equity fairness impartiality justice tolerance indifference


~Tenth

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Metallicus

That is giving personal favor to a certain group. If you tip unattractive waitresses less, though they have done just as good of a job as the ones you find attractive, that is a form of discrimination.

So, if I tip a white male waiter less because I don't find them attractive I am discriminating against him even if I give the normal 15%? So, I can't give more to attractive women? Very strange.

originally posted by: tothetenthpower

originally posted by: Metallicus
So, I notice that I tend to give attractive, female waitresses more than the normal 15% gratuity. The normal gratuity in the U.S. is usually considered to be 15%. Since I give MORE to attractive women would that be proscriminating? Although that doesn't appear to be a word.

Just curious how it all works.

More sexism really..

Technically still discriminating, since you are doing something extra for no other reason than her appearance. But I don't know the word for it exactly.

~Tenth

Is it sexism if you tip male waiters you find attractive more? I believe you are attracted to males if IIRC.

a reply to: Metallicus

I tip based on performance. How one looks while serving me food, doesn't really factor into that equation.

But yes, it would be sexist, or some variation of that.

ETA: I"ve certainly done that with bar tenders in my youth, so yep, I was being that way at that time.

~Tenth

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Metallicus

That is giving personal favor to a certain group. If you tip unattractive waitresses less, though they have done just as good of a job as the ones you find attractive, that is a form of discrimination.

So, if I tip a white male waiter less because I don't find them attractive I am discriminating against him even if I give the normal 15%? So, I can't give more to attractive women? Very strange.

I didn't say can't and you havent broken any laws. You asked for an opinion and I gave one.


eta: this morning I had an appointment downtown. It ended early. My aunt was going to be picking me up. I sought out a place to have coffee. The first place I found was an empty bar. I am still wearing the orthotic boot. It was 8:25 am. They didn't seem ready for customers. I do not remember what the waitress looked like. I tipped that way since she made coffee just for me. If it was a 'really cute guy' tip would have been just the same.
She put cofee on just for me. The coffee cost $1.28. I tipped her $3.

a reply to: Metallicus

You are not giving more to the attractive waitresses, you are giving less to those you do not find attractive.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Metallicus

You are not giving more to the attractive waitresses, you are giving less to those you do not find attractive.

Couldn't the fact that a waitress is attractive be 'value added' to my experience?

I don't have any stats on the subject but I have an opinion.

I would bet that attractive large chested ladies working in bars get bigger tips than fat ugly waitresses. Sex sells.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Metallicus

You are not giving more to the attractive waitresses, you are giving less to those you do not find attractive.

Couldn't the fact that a waitress is attractive be 'value added' to my experience?

Only if you're sexist...erm..that's the wrong word and I can't think of the right one...

They'd all come out as insults, and that's really not what I'm trying to do.

~Tenth

a reply to: tothetenthpower

I don't mean it as an insult to anyone. I just am happy I was able to see an attractive female and I was inclined to give her more money. I am not sure what it is either, but I am not thinking about giving less to others, just more to attractive women. It is all very confusing.

a reply to: Metallicus

Everybody Poops Discriminates.

It's life. Taller, better looking people will always score higher on some scale than shorter, uglier people.

It is discrimination.

Remember, "discriminating" also means. . . "having or showing refined taste or good judgment."

a reply to: DBCowboy

I know I tend to get better service from women than my buddy when I go out. I am not sure what that is about, but I think it is probably because he lacks in the attractiveness department.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Metallicus

Everybody Poops Discriminates.

I don't. So 'everybody' would be incorrect.

I have waiters/waitresses/bartenders/food delivery people/ taxi drivers to tip all the time. I don't tip on looks. Some taxi drivers since I have their private number and they show up quickly, I tip more, but that is service-based.

Well, its not sexism because its not a gender thing, its an attraction thing.

Discrimination seems to be the best label for this

dis·crim·i·na·tion
dəˌskriməˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.

Especially doesn't mean only. you are treating different based on attraction levels.

a young attractive white woman in western society is the most privileged type of person on earth. they literally can make money just existing.

originally posted by: Metallicus I am not sure what that is about, but I think it is probably because he lacks in the attractiveness department.

or you're the sucker spending big tips whenever you see a bit of makeup is probably the real reason

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Metallicus

You are not giving more to the attractive waitresses, you are giving less to those you do not find attractive.

Couldn't the fact that a waitress is attractive be 'value added' to my experience?

it was a warning, not a goal

a reply to: Metallicus

Why would you tip them for their looks and not their service? Just curious.