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originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
No. It's not time to REPEAL the 2nd Amendment. But, maybe it could use a little tweaking.
I'm sure that in 1776, a well regulated militia was absolutely necessary, but in 2016, we have a well regulated military. As far the right of the people to overthrow the government, it won't happen with semi-automatic rifles and machine guns. It just won't!
"The right to bare arms shall no be infringed" isn't realistic anymore. I don't think that even the staunchest of 2nd Amercement supporters want to see guns in the hands of convicted violent felons, for example.
There are already laws in place dealing with felons and firearms. Many are not enforced. For instance, just the act of trying to buy a gun, while being a felon, is illegal, yet noone has ever been charged for that. Most of the dead thugs from police shootings have at least 1 illegal firearm charge on their record, which usually is "supposed" to be a mandatory 5 year prison term in many states. The person rarely faces the penalty to the max.
Which is why we should simplify it. You get caught with a gun, you serve 10-30 years.
originally posted by: TownCryer
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
It's time to think about how guns relate to our real life, today, as opposed to how they related to real life 240 years ago.
originally posted by: thesungod
a reply to: uncommitted
These are direct statistics, not polls.
Here you have it from your own.
Murders Soar in UK!
If we do a year by year comparison it is even worse.
originally posted by: Nucleardoom
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
Just a question, are you drinking fluoridated water?
Also, please hand over your man card, your done.
originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: 3danimator2014
If they are in my way they aren't innocent.
originally posted by: Mandroid7
The big problem with removing the right from a person with a felony, is the classification of a felony can be changed to suit the current opinion of the government.
Grow a plant in your yard that was not in the list of payoffs, or other morality based opinion laws, you are now no longer able to legally protect your life.
that is not a small removal of rights, that is your right to protect yourself from dying
originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
originally posted by: Mandroid7
The big problem with removing the right from a person with a felony, is the classification of a felony can be changed to suit the current opinion of the government.
Grow a plant in your yard that was not in the list of payoffs, or other morality based opinion laws, you are now no longer able to legally protect your life.
that is not a small removal of rights, that is your right to protect yourself from dying
You can still protect yourself without a gun...
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: 3danimator2014
originally posted by: thesungod
a reply to: 3danimator2014
Forget about the Cumbria shootings? 12 dead in 2010. That's a mass shooting and right off the top of my head.
Your violent crime is through the roof. Rape and murder is soaring from pre gun control, so lack of guns didn't change that.
ETA: I respect the crap out of the Bobbies. I wouldn't do that job without a firearm.
Are you seriously citing one shooting that happened 6 years ago. How many has the US has this year alone?
Do you want to take the time to sort out the ones done with legally owned arms as opposed to the ones done with illegally carried ones?
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
originally posted by: Mandroid7
The big problem with removing the right from a person with a felony, is the classification of a felony can be changed to suit the current opinion of the government.
Grow a plant in your yard that was not in the list of payoffs, or other morality based opinion laws, you are now no longer able to legally protect your life.
that is not a small removal of rights, that is your right to protect yourself from dying
You can still protect yourself without a gun...
So do that and stop telling others what they can and can't do.
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
originally posted by: Mandroid7
The big problem with removing the right from a person with a felony, is the classification of a felony can be changed to suit the current opinion of the government.
Grow a plant in your yard that was not in the list of payoffs, or other morality based opinion laws, you are now no longer able to legally protect your life.
that is not a small removal of rights, that is your right to protect yourself from dying
You can still protect yourself without a gun...
So do that and stop telling others what they can and can't do.
originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
originally posted by: Metallicus
originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
originally posted by: Mandroid7
The big problem with removing the right from a person with a felony, is the classification of a felony can be changed to suit the current opinion of the government.
Grow a plant in your yard that was not in the list of payoffs, or other morality based opinion laws, you are now no longer able to legally protect your life.
that is not a small removal of rights, that is your right to protect yourself from dying
You can still protect yourself without a gun...
So do that and stop telling others what they can and can't do.
I already do that. I just don't want you to have a gun.
originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
Good damned thing it ain't up to YOU
originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
I fail to see how repealing the 2nd Amendment would accomplish that globally. Please explain your plan for the military, and other countries, and the ability to make one in your own garage with common machinist tools (or in prisons with common everyday items)?