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It's Time to Repeal the Second Amendment

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posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: Martin75

I have always wanted to shoot one, but never had the chance. My daughter would love that one on the left.




posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:06 PM
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Guns aren't going to disappear any time soon for American Society.

You can Print guns now, you know how many people probably have the ability to do that? Quite a few i'd say, particularily in light of the 2nd Amendment, and those who want to 'repeal' it.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: DAVID64
Perfect for a lady. You can't even tell I have it on when I conceal carry. (And I have a VERY small frame) Excellent for your daughter!



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:09 PM
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I am going to choose not to let this thread offend me.

However, I find it horrifying that anyone would advocate for LESS freedom and LESS rights. I defend rights that I don't agree with simply because we all should be able to live our lives free from tyranny. Just because YOU don't understand a right doesn't mean it should be taken away from others.

Obviously 'amazing' he is not.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

If you really care about violence, examine the INDIVIDUALS who engage in it and the causes.


I do and the only way to insure these individuals cannot get a firearm is to make it impossible to get one. You can disarm at a crazy person with a hatchet easier than one with a hand gun.



Here's the thing ... you will never make it impossible for someone who really wants a gun to get one.

The man who shot Kate Steinle? He was never supposed to have a firearm. He would not have passed any legal background check in even the most unrestricted of states. Do you know how he got his weapon? He stole it from the vehicle of a federal official ... someone who would still have been armed even IF you got your wish and disarmed every single private citizen.

The man who shot up Pulse night club? He was a private security contractor with a firm licensed by the Federal government. He was authorized above and beyond us peon civilians to obtain and carry firearms because of all the different checks for his job. Even IF you got your wish to disarm all us private citizens, odds are he still would have been able to access firearms.

You know those fabulous Mexican cartels who happily supply everyone with their illicit drugs of choice? No one has been able to stop them so far. What prevents them from simply adding illegal firearms to their list of items to sell to American citizens?



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Glock 19 Gen 4 9mm.
With these -




posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

OP i had a friend who passed away in a home invasion on his house.

The robbers were armed. He was not.

Your opinion is naive.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:12 PM
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Here we go again....Things have changed in this country and guns may be abused way too often by CRIMINALS who don't care about weapons laws.

The lessons that were learned in the past are why these laws were put into place, then a generation with no real life experience at all relating to the reason the laws were written, begin to question their necessity and think about changing things for the better, while not knowing they are opening the door to let something much, much worse in.

Yep, the world is a happy safe place like in Disney movies. Nobody gets hurt very bad or dies and the car always runs and even flies if the need arises for it to do so....

An example would be that of corporations, which were referred to as "companies" in colonial times and were basically either dissolved by ther founders, or allowed to exist only in their capacity to serve the public good and when they were no longer required they were dissolved. Examples would be to build dams and other infrastructure. Because the "companies" or "corporations" were a really big part of the reason the colonials revolted at all, but of course that detail has been polished away over the years like rubbing a blemish out of the fender of you car. Never really gone, just less obvious.

Now corporations are basically immortal and have somehow gained the rights of legal persons, without the liabilities of legal persons, because they're not, like, real live persons.

Same # happened with unions. Everyone who fought for the weekends and 40 hour workweek dies and the "corporations" (ah, once again) got everyone who was still alive a generation or so afterward with zero direct experience dealing with the corporate tyrants of the past brainwashed into believing unions were the bad guys.

I am so disappointed in how stupid nearly everyone in this country has become.

It is absolutely awesome to feel all safe and #, but don't be so damned naive, you're all gonna die anyway and you should be able to defend your crap if you need to until then.

Never Mind, like talking to a wall....

edit on 1-8-2016 by MyHappyDogShiner because: stupid

edit on 1-8-2016 by MyHappyDogShiner because: jkoasnd



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:24 PM
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Love will not triumph when you're looking down a barrel.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: and14263
Love will not triumph when you're looking down a barrel.

Just to add, The only power dictators respect is that which comes from the barrel of a gun.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:31 PM
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Don't know why this is 6 pages, OP's post was pretty obviously a joke.

"love conquers all" "Yacht club" a karl rove video?

Come on guys.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:31 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

NOT so fast HE MIGHT HAVE a big BOAT with which he can PLOW into innocent people.
HE did SAY he was with the Yacht club ya know...gives to all the GOOD charities....



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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I stopped reading at... "yacht club".



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: MisterSpock

I LIKE to argue...



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:33 PM
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We're still ignoring the real issues. Mental Health, Saudi Arabia, drug use, crime due to economic conditions, and police and community partnerships.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Hollow points all the way. Except in the bedside table. First three in that magazine are magsafe, followed by mk2s.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock
Don't know why this is 6 pages, OP's post was pretty obviously a joke.

"love conquers all" "Yacht club" a karl rove video?

Come on guys.


Then, if that is the case, the OP is flaunting the rules of ATS in doing so, and should be reviewed for such IMO. Otherwise, we will take it as an honest and forthright attempt to discuss the idea of repealing the 2nd Amendment.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:36 PM
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There is one simple solution to this that will keep everyone happy, If YOU don't like guns then dont buy any, And for the people that do like guns, Let them buy guns.

Why do you leaf eating lefties always try to dictate other people's lives, What other people choose to do is none of your god damn business.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

Since you don't READ links.. BOB OWENS:Let me explain, gun grabbers, how your confiscatory fantasy plays out. Let us imagine for a moment that a sweeping gun control bill similar to the one currently suggested is passed by the House and Senate, and signed into law by a contemptuous President.

Perhaps 50-100 million firearms currently owned by law-abiding citizens will become contraband with the stroke of a pen. Citizens will either register their firearms, or turn them in to agents of the federal government, or risk becoming criminals themselves. Faced with this choice, millions will indeed register their arms. Perhaps as many will claim they’ve sold their arms, or had them stolen. Suppose that as many as 200-250 million weapons of other types will go unregistered.

Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves.

They will be leaderless, stateless, difficult to track, and considering the number of military veterans that would likely be among their number, extremely skilled at sabotage, assassination, and ambush.

After a number of carefully-planned, highly-publicized, and successful raids by the government, one or more will invariably end “badly.” Whether innocents are gunned down, a city block is burned to ash, or especially fierce resistance leads to a disastrously failed raid doesn’t particularly matter. What matters is that when illusion of the government’s invincibility and infallibility is broken, the hunters will become the hunted.

Unnamed citizens and federal agents will be the first to die, and they will die by the dozens and maybe hundreds, but famous politicians will soon join them in a spate of revenge killings, many of which will go unsolved.

Ironically, while the gun grab was intended to keep citizens from preserving their liberties with medium-powered weapons, it completely ignored the longer-ranged rifles perfect for shooting at ranges far beyond what a security detail can protect, and suppressed .22LR weapons proven deadly in urban sniping in Europe and Asia.

While the Secret Service will be able to protect the President in the White House, he will not dare leave his gilded cage except in carefully controlled circumstances. Even then he will be forced to move like a criminal. He will never be seen outdoors in public again. Not in this country.

The 535 members of the House and Senate in both parties that allowed such a law to pass would largely be on their own; the Secret Service is too small to protect all of them and their families, the Capitol Police too unskilled, and competent private security not particularly interested in working against their own best interests at any price. The elites will be steadily whittled down, and if they can not be reached directly, the targets will become their staffers, spouses, children, and grandchildren. Grandstanding media figures loyal to the regime would die in droves, executed as enemies of the Republic.

You can expect congressional staffs to disintegrate with just a few shootings, and expect elected officials themselves to resign well before a quarter of their number are eliminated, leaving us with a boxed-in executive, his cabinet loyalists trapped in the same win, die, or flee the country circumstance, military regime loyalists, and whatever State Governors who desire to risk their necks as well.

Here, the President will doubtlessly order the activation of National Guard units and the regular military to impose martial law, setting the largest and most powerful military in the world against its own people. Unfortunately, the tighter the President clinches his tyrannical fist, the more rebels he makes.

Military commands and federal agencies will be whittled down as servicemen and agents will desert or defect. Some may leave as individuals, others may join the Rebellion in squad and larger-sized units with all their weapons, tactics, skills, and insider intelligence. The regime will be unable to trust its own people, and because they cannot trust them, they will lose more in a vicious cycle of collapse.

Some of these defectors will be true “operators,” with the skills and background to turn ragtag militia cells into the kind of forces that decimate loyalist troops, allowing them no rest and no respite, striking them when they are away from their most potent weapons. Military vehicles are formidable, but they are thirsty beasts, in terms of fuel, ammo, time, and maintenance. Tanks and bombers are formidable only when they have gas, guns, and can be maintained. In a war without a front, logistics are incredibly easy to destroy, and mechanics and supply clerks are not particularly adept at defending themselves.

Eventually, the government will turn upon itself. The President will be captured or perhaps killed by his own protectors. A dictatorship will form in the vacuum.

If we’re lucky, the United States of America, or whatever amalgam results, will again try to rebuild. If we’re very lucky, the victors will reinstate the Constitution as the law of the land. Just as likely though, we’ll face fractious civil wars fought over issues we’ve not begun to fathom, and a much diminished state or states will result, perhaps guided by foreign interests.

It will not be pretty. There will be no “winners,” and perhaps hundreds of thousands to millions of dead.

Yet, this is the future we face if the power-mad among us are not soundly defeated at the ballot box before they affect more “change” than we, the People, are willing to surrender to would-be tyrants.

Now that would make a great movie.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

NOPE I DO believe he wants to disarm all of America so only the government will have them...while IGNORING their numbers ENTIRELY.
Just running scared,poor civilians....wish I could help.




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