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Fact: Since gun banning has escalated in the UK, the rate of crime – especially violent crime – has risen. Fact: Ironically, firearm use in crimes in the UK has doubled in the decade since handguns were banned. 17 Fact: Britain has the highest rate of violent crime in Europe, more so than the United States or even South Africa. They also have the second highest overall crime rate in the European Union. In 2008, Britain had a violent crime rate nearly five times higher than the United States (2034 vs. 446 per 100,000 population). 18 Fact: 67% of British residents surveyed believed that “As a result of gun and knife crime [rising], the area I live in is not as safe as it was five years ago.” 19 GUNS IN OTHER COUNTRIES - U.K. Violent Crime Rates 1982 through 2010 covering gun control acts in 1998 and 1997 - revised - 2Fact: U.K. street robberies soared 28% in 2001. Violent crime was up 11%, murders up 4%, and rapes were up 14%. 20 Fact: This trend continued in the U.K in 2004 with a 10% increase in street crime, 8% increase in muggings, and a 22% increase in robberies. Fact: In 1919, before it had any gun control, the U.K. had a homicide rate that was 8% of the U.S. rate. By 1986, and after enacting significant gun control, the rate was 9% – practically unchanged. 21 Fact: “… [There is] nothing in the statistics for England and Wales to suggest that either the stricter controls on handguns prior to 1997 or the ban imposed since have controlled access to such firearms by criminals.”
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
Fantastic idea!! Then only people who have firearms illegally will be armed. nice thinkin
originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
Fantastic idea!! Then only people who have firearms illegally will be armed. nice thinkin
If it's too expensive to purchase a firearm off the black market there will not be many going around. Stick a Class A felony charge on owning an unregistered deadly weapon would be a nice touch.
originally posted by: thesungod
a reply to: 3danimator2014
Fact: Since gun banning has escalated in the UK, the rate of crime – especially violent crime – has risen. Fact: Ironically, firearm use in crimes in the UK has doubled in the decade since handguns were banned. 17 Fact: Britain has the highest rate of violent crime in Europe, more so than the United States or even South Africa. They also have the second highest overall crime rate in the European Union. In 2008, Britain had a violent crime rate nearly five times higher than the United States (2034 vs. 446 per 100,000 population). 18 Fact: 67% of British residents surveyed believed that “As a result of gun and knife crime [rising], the area I live in is not as safe as it was five years ago.” 19 GUNS IN OTHER COUNTRIES - U.K. Violent Crime Rates 1982 through 2010 covering gun control acts in 1998 and 1997 - revised - 2Fact: U.K. street robberies soared 28% in 2001. Violent crime was up 11%, murders up 4%, and rapes were up 14%. 20 Fact: This trend continued in the U.K in 2004 with a 10% increase in street crime, 8% increase in muggings, and a 22% increase in robberies. Fact: In 1919, before it had any gun control, the U.K. had a homicide rate that was 8% of the U.S. rate. By 1986, and after enacting significant gun control, the rate was 9% – practically unchanged. 21 Fact: “… [There is] nothing in the statistics for England and Wales to suggest that either the stricter controls on handguns prior to 1997 or the ban imposed since have controlled access to such firearms by criminals.”
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How's that firearm control working out for you UK?
originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
Stick a Class A felony charge on owning an unregistered deadly weapon would be a nice touch.
originally posted by: loam
I can't possibly imagine what could go wrong with a government disarming its populous. After all, we nominate the best political visionaries in our Republic. Just look at Trump and Clinton. Keeps getting better each election cycle.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
Fantastic idea!! Then only people who have firearms illegally will be armed. nice thinkin
If it's too expensive to purchase a firearm off the black market there will not be many going around. Stick a Class A felony charge on owning an unregistered deadly weapon would be a nice touch.
I have seen many street guns go from 30-50 dollars. When I was a teen there were a few bad apples I hung out with from time to time. They can be had for cheap.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
No. It's not time to REPEAL the 2nd Amendment. But, maybe it could use a little tweaking.
I'm sure that in 1776, a well regulated militia was absolutely necessary, but in 2016, we have a well regulated military. As far the right of the people to overthrow the government, it won't happen with semi-automatic rifles and machine guns. It just won't!
"The right to bare arms shall no be infringed" isn't realistic anymore. I don't think that even the staunchest of 2nd Amercement supporters want to see guns in the hands of convicted violent felons, for example.
originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
No. It's not time to REPEAL the 2nd Amendment. But, maybe it could use a little tweaking.
I'm sure that in 1776, a well regulated militia was absolutely necessary, but in 2016, we have a well regulated military. As far the right of the people to overthrow the government, it won't happen with semi-automatic rifles and machine guns. It just won't!
"The right to bare arms shall no be infringed" isn't realistic anymore. I don't think that even the staunchest of 2nd Amercement supporters want to see guns in the hands of convicted violent felons, for example.
There are already laws in place dealing with felons and firearms. Many are not enforced. For instance, just the act of trying to buy a gun, while being a felon, is illegal, yet noone has ever been charged for that. Most of the dead thugs from police shootings have at least 1 illegal firearm charge on their record, which usually is "supposed" to be a mandatory 5 year prison term in many states. The person rarely faces the penalty to the max.