It's Time to Repeal the Second Amendment

a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

You'll need a hell of a lot of guns to ban and take guns from people in this country.

I guess you're just wishing for a civil war. Because that's exactly what would happen.

You're a child that has no idea what you're asking for.

a reply to: intrptr

OOOOO buddy YOU DONE pissed off the tree huggers...FEEL THER WRATH!


.....Dear GOD never let it be said I'm against trees,this is an idiot service announcement......

The liberal utopian dream...

a reply to: 3danimator2014

Police force? The police, or in my case, the sheriffs dept., can not be everywhere... You do understand that, right?

I live some distance out of town, it takes a deputy sheriff, with lights and sirens, at least twenty minutes to get here...probably longer. ...Twenty minutes. ...probably longer.

Do you know how much bad can happen in twenty minutes?

My firearms are not why there are shootings "every week". My firearms are where I can get to them, as needed. I don't need the govt., or folks like yourself, telling me how to do things.

As for you, and where ever it is you are, I don't really care. What you choose to do, or not do, in your life is your business, kindly stay out of mine.

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

So in your opinion, only the government, police, and military have proven they can be responsible with firearms?

That's one of the most frightening notions I could ever fathom. They have actually proven quite the opposite

No, in the OPs opinion all guns will magically disappear because we live in the land of unicorns and rainbows where nobody would ever think of not turning in their firearms, and nobody would ever think "oh, America has no guns now, let's go take their stuff."

Whatever is being smoked or injected is clearly pretty potent.

It could play out simply. President Hillary Clinton would issue a health emergency. The emergency would declare that firearms pose an immediate risk to public health, safety and most importantly a right to liberty.

The Democrat filled congress will have an emergency session to vote all guns removed from the streets and to be used as scrap in an over whelming majority.

The ATF will work with state and local authorities in collecting guns are various donation centers. The IRS will work in tandem to issue all the proper tax documents.

Meanwhile State and local authorities would be retrained in proper deescalation tactics and non-lethal disarming tactics. Authorities will spend more time practicing community policing rather than using a broken windows model.

The military will be transformed into a major engineering and construction arm of the US. Their operating goal would be to help third worlds countries transition into the 21st century by building infrastructures.

***********************************************In short my little DUMBNIKS, HUMAN nature*****************************************************

a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
Let me explain, gun grabbers, how your confiscatory fantasy plays out. Let us imagine for a moment that a sweeping gun control bill similar to the one currently suggested is passed by the House and Senate, and signed into law by a contemptuous President.

Perhaps 50-100 million firearms currently owned by law-abiding citizens will become contraband with the stroke of a pen. Citizens will either register their firearms, or turn them in to agents of the federal government, or risk becoming criminals themselves. Faced with this choice, millions will indeed register their arms. Perhaps as many will claim they’ve sold their arms, or had them stolen. Suppose that as many as 200-250 million weapons of other types will go unregistered.

Tens of millions of Americans will refuse to comply with an order that is clearly a violation of the explicit intent of the Second Amendment. Among the most ardent opposing these measures will be military veterans, active duty servicemen, and local law enforcement officers. Many of these individuals will refuse to carry out what they view as Constitutionally illegal orders. Perhaps 40-50 million citizens will view such a law as treason. Perhaps ten percent of those, 4-5 million, would support a rebellion in some way, and maybe 40,000-100,000 Americans will form small independently-functioning active resistance cells, or become lone-wolves.

They will be leaderless, stateless, difficult to track, and considering the number of military veterans that would likely be among their number, extremely skilled at sabotage, assassination, and ambush.

After a number of carefully-planned, highly-publicized, and successful raids by the government, one or more will invariably end “badly.” Whether innocents are gunned down, a city block is burned to ash, or especially fierce resistance leads to a disastrously failed raid doesn’t particularly matter. What matters is that when illusion of the government’s invincibility and infallibility is broken, the hunters will become the hunted.

Unnamed citizens and federal agents will be the first to die, and they will die by the dozens and maybe hundreds, but famous politicians will soon join them in a spate of revenge killings, many of which will go unsolved.

Ironically, while the gun grab was intended to keep citizens from preserving their liberties with medium-powered weapons, it completely ignored the longer-ranged rifles perfect for shooting at ranges far beyond what a security detail can protect, and suppressed .22LR weapons proven deadly in urban sniping in Europe and Asia.

While the Secret Service will be able to protect the President in the White House, he will not dare leave his gilded cage except in carefully controlled circumstances. Even then he will be forced to move like a criminal. He will never be seen outdoors in public again. Not in this country.

The 535 members of the House and Senate in both parties that allowed such a law to pass would largely be on their own; the Secret Service is too small to protect all of them and their families, the Capitol Police too unskilled, and competent private security not particularly interested in working against their own best interests at any price. The elites will be steadily whittled down, and if they can not be reached directly, the targets will become their staffers, spouses, children, and grandchildren. Grandstanding media figures loyal to the regime would die in droves, executed as enemies of the Republic.

You can expect congressional staffs to disintegrate with just a few shootings, and expect elected officials themselves to resign well before a quarter of their number are eliminated, leaving us with a boxed-in executive, his cabinet loyalists trapped in the same win, die, or flee the country circumstance, military regime loyalists, and whatever State Governors who desire to risk their necks as well.

Here, the President will doubtlessly order the activation of National Guard units and the regular military to impose martial law, setting the largest and most powerful military in the world against its own people. Unfortunately, the tighter the President clinches his tyrannical fist, the more rebels he makes.

Military commands and federal agencies will be whittled down as servicemen and agents will desert or defect. Some may leave as individuals, others may join the Rebellion in squad and larger-sized units with all their weapons, tactics, skills, and insider intelligence. The regime will be unable to trust its own people, and because they cannot trust them, they will lose more in a vicious cycle of collapse.

Some of these defectors will be true “operators,” with the skills and background to turn ragtag militia cells into the kind of forces that decimate loyalist troops, allowing them no rest and no respite, striking them when they are away from their most potent weapons. Military vehicles are formidable, but they are thirsty beasts, in terms of fuel, ammo, time, and maintenance. Tanks and bombers are formidable only when they have gas, guns, and can be maintained. In a war without a front, logistics are incredibly easy to destroy, and mechanics and supply clerks are not particularly adept at defending themselves.

Eventually, the government will turn upon itself. The President will be captured or perhaps killed by his own protectors. A dictatorship will form in the vacuum.

If we’re lucky, the United States of America, or whatever amalgam results, will again try to rebuild. If we’re very lucky, the victors will reinstate the Constitution as the law of the land. Just as likely though, we’ll face fractious civil wars fought over issues we’ve not begun to fathom, and a much diminished state or states will result, perhaps guided by foreign interests.

It will not be pretty. There will be no “winners,” and perhaps hundreds of thousands to millions of dead.

Yet, this is the future we face if the power-mad among us are not soundly defeated at the ballot box before they affect more “change” than we, the People, are willing to surrender to would-be tyrants


BOB ,FRIGGIN OWNS WROTE THIS
Hope you don't mind bob...

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Dude, you already posted this... Your cute little story didn't include President Hillary Clinton.

I have it COPIED and waiting.
And I know I didn't because it wasn't going to make a difference,accept making it easy.

a reply to: TheAmazingYeti



What ever it is you're drinking, assuming you're old enough (I have my doubts...), line one up for me. 'cause it makes you see some rather silly things.

a reply to: rexsblues

Brought to you some years ago by George Orwell.

a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

You mean like in Europe? You think Muslim gangbangers pay a small fortune for their ammunition?

And how will that work out for the government? You think they'll be fine with paying extortionist prices for their ammo? Or will they get special deals? Either way it'll end up on the black market through corruption. Criminal syndicates can smuggle people and hundreds of tonnes of drugs into the US and you think ammunition would pose a problem?

What a delusional fantasy.

The government is working to provide more opportunities for everyone... not less.

Are you a gullible child or an adult? You'd have to be [snip, I'm trying to be nicer lately] to believe that, especially about the US government. But thanks for proving how hopelessly naive you are.

Get real..

a reply to: seagull



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originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

You mean like in Europe? You think Muslim gangbangers pay a small fortune for their ammunition?

And how will that work out for the government? You think they'll be fine with paying extortionist prices for their ammo? Or will they get special deals? Either way it'll end up on the black market through corruption. Criminal syndicates can smuggle people and hundreds of tonnes of drugs into the US and you think ammunition would pose a problem?

What a delusional fantasy.

The government is working to provide more opportunities for everyone... not less.

Are you a gullible child or an adult? You'd have to be [snip, I'm trying to be nicer lately] to believe that, especially about the US government. But thanks for proving how hopelessly naive you are.

Get real..

The gangbangers you refer to are funded by Russia and the US. Please don't be naive about how they're armed.

I mean ..IF THE RNC tried a political martial law... WELL ....THAT'S old money there ,THEY are FAR more dangerous than YOU are as iberals.
THEY are the seat of the Oligarchs.
I DON''T have to tell YOU about it YOU know.

a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

YOU'RE rich,why is Soros still alive?

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Because he's rich?

as a democrat, I would fight to keep the 2nd....unlike what every right-winger says on this thread about how they know what democrats would do. (rolls eyes)....remember, democrats might need them in the future to fight against an extreme political (fascist or communist) takeover of our government, where the constitution is under threat of being eliminated.....I think if that happened a lot of republicans AND democrats would be in the same foxhole.

originally posted by: TheAmazingYeti

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

So in your opinion, only the government, police, and military have proven they can be responsible with firearms?

That's one of the most frightening notions I could ever fathom. They have actually proven quite the opposite

No, in the OPs opinion all guns will magically disappear because we live in the land of unicorns and rainbows where nobody would ever think of not turning in their firearms, and nobody would ever think "oh, America has no guns now, let's go take their stuff."

Whatever is being smoked or injected is clearly pretty potent.

It could play out simply. President Hillary Clinton would issue a health emergency. The emergency would declare that firearms pose an immediate risk to public health, safety and most importantly a right to liberty.

The Democrat filled congress will have an emergency session to vote all guns removed from the streets and to be used as scrap in an over whelming majority.

The ATF will work with state and local authorities in collecting guns are various donation centers. The IRS will work in tandem to issue all the proper tax documents.

Meanwhile State and local authorities would be retrained in proper deescalation tactics and non-lethal disarming tactics. Authorities will spend more time practicing community policing rather than using a broken windows model.

The military will be transformed into a major engineering and construction arm of the US. Their operating goal would be to help third worlds countries transition into the 21st century by building infrastructures.

You should start a letter writing campaign to your representatives so that they can see the clear thinking and vision behind your original proposal. As there will be no unintended consequences, it won't take your team very long to convince Congress and the States to repeal the second amendment. Citizens will be amazed at your insights and ask why no one ever thought of this solution before. All, including criminals and gangsters, will line up to turn in illegal weapons including knives, wood, and [gasp!] rocks, all of which will be numbered and their serial numbers recorded in the evil weapons database.

Maybe by the time you go to your prom, you will have eliminated all the ills of a poor, undereducated demographic with little culture and parental guidance.

a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

DELTA could have taken him or us at any time,MY QUESTION was one of events not practicallity.
WHY does he exist?HE has taken his treasure an used it to further a bad idea ,don't you think?
HOW DOES he do that with such immunity?