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The Cognitive Dissonance of Donald Trump

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posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
Hillary might be wrong on some issues but she's wrong within normal parameters.

What Trump is proposing would bring chaos and start trade wars along with alienating ourselves from the rest of the world.

It's no wonder why the intelligence community from former CIA directors to generals have come out against him.


What? Pray tell, please show us your doctorate in Economics, because there is absolutely no proof that anything you said is possible. Liars and fear-mongerers were saying the same freaking thing about Brexit, and lo and behold Britains exports/imports have exploded in their favor since Brexit. The complete opposite of what the globalist liars were scaring people with.

I mean, seriously, why bother writing anything? Just turn your tv around and let it do the talking and writing for you....that's what its doing anyway...SMH.

This Kahn character is EVERYTHING that is wrong with America. He has a loose handle on facts, is in love with Sharia law, which proves how he feels about women, and minorities, and as an exporter to Saudi Arabia, as someone who has been in that area of the world, let me tell you, you do NOT make a deal without 'baksheesh'. Bribes. So he's as dirty as they come, and every American should be disgusted, not 'inspired' that he had the gall to speak to the American people via the DNC platform.




posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: RomeByFire

He said some things, he tweeted some things, he implied some things, and now you have pundits giving their opinions of quotes and paraphrases mined from their context, and served up in a propaganda platter so you can use them as your opinions.

Give me a proper argument. Quote Donald Trump, argue why it is a breach of human rights, and employ your own reasoning instead of someone else's. This tiresome parroting of the "blogosphere", the groupthink involved in it, and the propagation of questionable propaganda is not reasonable by any means, nor evidence of anything but party dependency.


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posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: muse7

OMG. I just noticed your reference to 'ex-CIA'. It's always stuns me to realize there are sitll people in this country who are so lazy, they can't be bothered to research what is really going on. And the CIA is by far, the most EVIL ORGANIZATION on this planet. Everything they have done is directly against what the American people would want.

Just read a freaking book every now and then, instead of believing the propaganda and disinfo you receive from the tv set. Read 'Matsu#a's Gold by Sterling Seagrave, to get a taste of the evil that is the CIA. Do a web search on 'the finders cia tallahassee', and you will discover that the CIA is INVOLVED IN CHILD TRAFFICKING and CHILD PORN, and tells the FBI and police to back off the investigation, because, well, you know, 'national security' and all that. It's a truly disgusting tale and you should read of it before you go endorsing anything the CIA fills your little brain with.

Or, heck, you can do a web search on 'Operation Gladio Vatican CIA mafia' and discover how, through court documents in numerous trials in Italy, the CIA has been selling heroin to the inner cities since WWII, along with the mafia and the Vatican.

Or heck, you can do a web search on 'Mena Airport Bush Clinton CIA' and discover how the CIA has been importing coc aine into this country, using Pappy Bushes oil platforms in the Gulf as waypoints, and also using Mena Airport in Arkansas.

I could go on. But that should be enough to convince any normally thinking human being to think twice before repeating anything a CIA or ex-CIA operative tells you. SMH.

Edited to add read 'The Franklin Scandal' to see how the CIA and Mossad have been involved in child porn and trafficking, and how they use this to blackmail gov't politicians. There is a MOUNTAIN of evidence out there...you just have to actually, you know, spend 10 minutes looking for it...
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Edited because it's obvious that SOMEONE here at ATS is misapplying censorship for curse words to the book I speak of above to show. Its 'm-a-t-s-u-s-h-i-t-a-s gold' and it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the CIA and deep state has been involved in stealing trillions (yes, that's right, trillions) of dollars of gold and precious jewels that the Japanese had looted from Asia since they started invading Asian countries in 1895 in Korea. They even created a gov't dept to keep track and plan for more looting. I kid you not, and it's all proven in FOIA docs, civil and criminal court docs, and gov't docs from Japan, Phillipines and USA. If you are wondering how the deep state got started and where all the money came from, you must read this book...
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posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: RomeByFire

He said some things, he tweeted some things, he implied some things, and now you have pundits giving their opinions of quotes and paraphrased mined from their context, and served up in a propaganda platter so you can use them as your opinions.





You are correct! But politics is about perception not reality. Clinton is playing for keeps with Trumps dumbass campaign statements. The delicious irony is that Trump destroyed his chances for election by running his mouth like an idiot.
The possibility remains that he knew exactly what he was doing and saying; Thereby handing Clinton the election....Machiavellian skullduggery eh?




Game, set.....match!
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posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk
There is video of Bernie supporters chanting "F%ck free speech". Free speech has been under increasing assault by the left for the last 8 years. Where have you been?


Increasing assault?

What restrictions have been placed on free speech over the last 8 years?


For one, this has become common.

www.campusreform.org...

DePaul University has officially banned conservative commentator Ben Shapiro from appearing on campus.

DePaul University told the DePaul Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) chapter that Shapiro will no longer be allowed on campus due to “security concerns,” reports The Daily Wire.

"So, I've been banned from DePaul. Because they're cowards." Tweet This

"Given the experiences and security concerns that some other schools have had with Ben Shapiro speaking on their campuses, DePaul cannot agree to allow him to speak on our campus at this time,” Bob Janis, Vice President of Facilities Operations at DePaul, wrote in an email to the DePaul YAF chapter’s executive board.


People cant exercise free speech at universities because Democrat voters are threatening violence.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk
There is video of Bernie supporters chanting "F%ck free speech". Free speech has been under increasing assault by the left for the last 8 years. Where have you been?


Increasing assault?

What restrictions have been placed on free speech over the last 8 years?


For one, this has become common.

www.campusreform.org...

DePaul University has officially banned conservative commentator Ben Shapiro from appearing on campus.

DePaul University told the DePaul Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) chapter that Shapiro will no longer be allowed on campus due to “security concerns,” reports The Daily Wire.

"So, I've been banned from DePaul. Because they're cowards." Tweet This

"Given the experiences and security concerns that some other schools have had with Ben Shapiro speaking on their campuses, DePaul cannot agree to allow him to speak on our campus at this time,” Bob Janis, Vice President of Facilities Operations at DePaul, wrote in an email to the DePaul YAF chapter’s executive board.


People cant exercise free speech at universities because Democrat voters are threatening violence.


Yeah, that is truly sad. It's completely opposite to things when I was in college. There is NO WAY we would have ever allowed free speech to be manipulated. WTF is happening to kids these days? Are they really all that brainwashed? These are supposed to be 'the internet generation'. Yet, they don't bother USING IT?



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:10 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: RomeByFire

He said some things, he tweeted some things, he implied some things, and now you have pundits giving their opinions of quotes and paraphrased mined from their context, and served up in a propaganda platter so you can use them as your opinions.





You are correct! But politics is about perception not reality. Clinton is playing for keeps with Trumps dumbass campaign statements. The delicious irony is that Trump destroyed his chances for election by running his mouth like an idiot.
The possibility remains that he knew exactly what he was doing and saying.



The irony is in the stupidity of playing Trump as the fool, when in comparison to anyone else, Trump is the genius and the Saint at the same time. He didn't destroy his election. There are saboteurs actively trying to destroy it: a propaganda machine and the denizens who are swayed by it.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Still waiting. It's not like everyone can't see your evasions and misdirection. No wonder you like a lying bully like Trump.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope


The irony is in the stupidity of playing Trump as the fool, when in comparison to anyone else, Trump is the genius and the Saint at the same time.


How does it feel to see your intellectual credibility circling down the drain?



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: ~Lucidity

Did he break the law? Is it illegal? If not, you have no point.

If the law needs to be changed, then change it. Until then, respect it. You don't get to pick and choose which laws apply and which ones don't.

If what he did was illegal he should be charged for it. Just like killary should be charged for her many crimes.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: DJW001

Sorry, no link. You failed to address my post. All you have to do is look, but you avoid. It.

He doesn't have a fourth grade education. That's false.

He lacks curiosity? You lack curiosity, and you don't see me complaining.

Manifort is a Lobbyist? Yes, Mainort is a lobbyist, who owns and runs a lobbying business, who has lobbied for everyone from Bush, Dole, and to some Russian guys. Having a client isn't a crime in some circles.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: LesMisanthrope


The irony is in the stupidity of playing Trump as the fool, when in comparison to anyone else, Trump is the genius and the Saint at the same time.


How does it feel to see your intellectual credibility circling down the drain?


I don't claim any credibility. Another falsity. I'm just a guy on the Internet. We're all equals here.


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posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:48 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll
I've never seen so many people duped by one person. Their inability to see through DJT is at times, unbelievable. As in at times, I find it hard to believe so many people are so confused and willing to accept someone with his lack of credentials and personal qualities as President.

Hillary Clinton has been cleared by Congress and the FBI of wrongdoings. And yet, still we see the accusations over and over again as if true. What's true is disregarded, pushed aside as though it doesn't matter.

The blind following the blind. Like children, being duped into thinking they can catch the gold ring.


Seriously?

Imagine if Trump was "cleared by congress and the FBI of wrongdoing" lolololol!!!

Hahahahahaha!!!

Thanks for the laugh.

Yeah, that's the ticket, let congress and the FBI vett the candidates.

BTW, they didn't clear her of wrongdoing.

(still chuckling)




posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:51 PM
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This guy makes the decision to exploit his son. What did he expect? His son was killed by Muslims, in a Muslim country in a war that Hillary supported. hmmm

Hillary Clinton shouldn't be calling Sean Smith's mother a liar. And she had something directly to do with the death of Sean Smith denying security. I think that's worse. Hillary Clinton is a no good piece of garbage. She only uses gold star families to get what she wants. She only cares about gold star families that support her.
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posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: redempsh

Are you saying he is a con man? Why should we elect a con man President?


The bigger question is, has he been cleared by congress and the FBI of wrongdoing, like Scandalrella was?




posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:03 PM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Still waiting. It's not like everyone can't see your evasions and misdirection. No wonder you like a lying bully like Trump.


You're wasting your time.

Anyone who doesn't support Trump according to some are automatically subject to baseless claims that "they're swayed by the propoganda machine," and that they're (you) actively involved in "groupthink," and they can't formulate their own reasonings.

There's nothing proactive and/or beneficial to attempting to converse with those who outright dismiss anything they themselves don't necessarily agree with.

I attempted posting multiple links, to multiple sources, to multiple opinions, on multiple topics - and it was broadstroked by his cult members as "propoganda," and all in all - it's a waste of my life and time going back and forth.

In short - I don't like nor do I support Donald Trump because, well - to put it simply, I don't. Same as Clinton, same as Obummer, same as Bush.

Many people are against Trump and it has NOTHING to do with "denizens swayed by the propoganda machine," it has to do with people exercising their own judgement and "calling it like they see it," something Trump supporters seem to only support when it comes to things they agree with.

I don't like nor support the clown because I think he's an authoritarian wannabe, who is narcissistic as all hell, has no sense of respect for others, and is no different than the other low-lifes who value profit over human lives. Donald Trump is a supporter of clandestine banking activity and wants to see former bankers (Sachs, remember 2008?) to prominent positions in the government. He's an advocate for closing/censoring the Internet, he's an advocate for further surveillance measures of American citizens, he's for a "no fly, no gun," measure, he's an advocate for being involved in foreign wars (Libya for example), and a number of other reasons that I won't bother delving into.

But I digress - for I'm just a victimless soul who has been swayed by the evil tides of the propoganda machine!

Which, by the way, is a gag because I haven't watched television (aside from Netflix) since I graduated high school (didn't ever have a television in college), and that was 2012.

Donald Trump is a joke.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk
There is video of Bernie supporters chanting "F%ck free speech". Free speech has been under increasing assault by the left for the last 8 years. Where have you been?


Increasing assault?

What restrictions have been placed on free speech over the last 8 years?


For one, this has become common.

www.campusreform.org...

DePaul University has officially banned conservative commentator Ben Shapiro from appearing on campus.

DePaul University told the DePaul Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) chapter that Shapiro will no longer be allowed on campus due to “security concerns,” reports The Daily Wire.

"So, I've been banned from DePaul. Because they're cowards." Tweet This

"Given the experiences and security concerns that some other schools have had with Ben Shapiro speaking on their campuses, DePaul cannot agree to allow him to speak on our campus at this time,” Bob Janis, Vice President of Facilities Operations at DePaul, wrote in an email to the DePaul YAF chapter’s executive board.


People cant exercise free speech at universities because Democrat voters are threatening violence.



Which means the University cannot protect or control their students.

Don't they also admit to having 1 in 4 students raped on campus?

So why pay $30-60k a year for that?

lol! Good job, progs!!






posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: xtradimensions


I don't believe Trump is suffering from cognitive dissonance but rather he is merely inconsistent, doesn't think through his positions, and that he says whatever comes to mind based on his feelings at the moment. There is a very big difference because cognitive dissonance would indicate an inner-awareness that I don't believe Trump possesses.

That's what I think also.

Please go through the thread, and you'll see that............



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:37 PM
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a reply to: RomeByFire




I attempted posting multiple links, to multiple sources, to multiple opinions, on multiple topics - and it was broadstroked by his cult members as "propoganda," and all in all - it's a waste of my life and time going back and forth.


I'm one person, not a cult.

What do you want me to do with your links? Read the headlines and consider that as your argument? Links are not an argument. Quoting someone else is not an argument. Make a claim, back it up, and defend it. Is that too much to ask?



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope


What do you want me to do with your links? Read the headlines and consider that as your argument? Links are not an argument. Quoting someone else is not an argument. Make a claim, back it up, and defend it. Is that too much to ask?


You just seriously asked this?

*sigh*

When people post links, you are expected to look at them, and read the pertinent article(s) relative to the OP topic.

Reading just the headlines is an asinine (and lazy) approach to being informed.
If you can't be bothered to look into issues any further than just reading the headlines and then mouthing off on the internet, then you really aren't (in any way) a credible sounding board or discussion partner.

Wow.



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