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Turkey Surrounds, Blocks Access To NATO's Incirlik Airbase Amid Speculation Of Second Coup

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posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 11:10 AM
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How about a new Kurdish airbase?




posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 11:13 AM
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posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 11:30 AM
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Folks, don't let yourselves be fooled!

1. The nukes at Incirlik are a distant memory! They're LONG gone, and have been gone for months!

2. The movement and locations of nuclear weapons is one of the most tightly guarded secrets in all the military. It's pointless to be looking for some media story about them being removed. You will never find it...it will never happen!

3. Even if the nukes weren't removed (which they have been), they would be useless to anyone else except as some sort of a radiological 'dirty' bomb...and this would not be even remotely worth the effort and devastating losses a group would suffer trying to get at them.

4. Nukes are the most heavily guarded munitions on the planet! To even get within a half a mile of a nuke a force would need to survive an absolutely apocalyptic 'no-holds-barred' defense by the entire might of the US military! Turkey might be good, but they ain't THAT good!

5. Nukes are a strategic bargaining chip, not a tactical necessity, in Turkey. There may not have been any ever placed there to begin with, or if there were they were removed shortly afterwards. The deterrent is based around the "idea" that they're there, not the actuality of it.




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posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 11:49 AM
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The bigger question to be asking is...

Why is none of this being covered by the MSM?

It's BIG news, and nary a word of it is circulating!



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 01:03 PM
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My theory is that it is a primer for the world olympics.

A dirty bomb going off during the olympics, blamed on radical islam, from a 'stolen' nuke in Turkey.

What better way to galvanize the west and have a formal war against Syria and Iran?



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

How can that happen when they are all under US control?



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 02:38 PM
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Turkey seems keen on making an enemy out of NATO.



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: Cygnatt

Maybe they think they will be the head of a new NATO like group, all under Erdogan and Sharia law.



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 03:31 PM
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Here is whats happened / happening :

Incirlik airbase have been used in aiding and abetting the coup and as a result Turkish Civilians in Adana are demanding the closure of the base and total eviction of NATO bases followed by closure of USA Embassy & Consulate in Turkey .
This issue is not new ; here is a video clip of street interviewer asking people of Adana whether they want the Incirlik Base closed or not :

Results are half and half .




Here is a clip from 3 days ago , protestors at Incirlik Base chanting " Damn America " . Overall there are 200 - 300 people demonstrating and this number is nothing to worry about .




The fear is one of Gulen followers will somehow steal a nuke and pass it on to ISIS ; the Base Commander has asked USA for political asylum which has been denied .

I am totally and utterly blown away by the display of ignorance on this thread .

Even if Turks wanted to leave NATO , this is not an obstacle for bilateral agreements .

Erdogan is the most popularly elected politician in the WORLD and he is actually fighting against the Rothschilds ; how myopic are some people ?



Turks are the natural and true Leaders of Muslims and due to increased hostility and wars against poor Muslims ; the History is propelling the Turks to take control of Muslim World after a 100 year break .

Gulen movement was setup by CIA's Graham Fuller with a view to take control of Islamic World via Caliphate in Istanbul.

Erdogan said NO and this is where we are today .

As I type this ; U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Joseph Dunford is scheduled to land in Incirlik ; he is coming to Turkey to have a chat with PM and reassure Turkish public that USA has nothing to do with Coup .

Erdogan has no use of nukes , no need for nukes in Turkey ; it would only make Turkey a target anyhow . No , Erdogan is relying on a much more dangerous weapon ; People , massess of them support Erdogan from Endonasia to Yemen , Somali to Nigeria , Kazakhstan to Bosnia .

1.8 billion muslims united as one Nation and Erdogan is the Leader of this Block .

Truely dangerous sh1te for Rothschilds & Co ; no more emperialism in the lands of muslims .


For ordinary people Erdogan represents hope , an escape from New World Order , an existence where money isn't everything .

Erdogan is able to break the bondages of voluntary servitute which has befallen upon yourselves and your children's children ; Erdogan will defeat the Rothschilds and the World will see that these masters of yours are not that powerfull after all .

Support Erdogan's fight against the Rothschilds Tyranny , you don't have to say Allah-u Ekber ; do it for Jesus if for nothing else .
Smash the money changers in the temple .



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: 23432

You sound naive ..steal a nuke and give to ISIS ? Sounds like stealing a soft toy from the corner store, which itself is difficult these days. Get real, don't preach the muslim emperor bull, the amount of internal strife/conflicts/difference in belifs muslims have within themselves is staggering. He is just using this crisis and turkey's refugee deal maximum damage to his secular opponents in various institutions. Diversionary tactics thats all. Turkey isnt Iran or Libya. Turkey needs US/NATO as much as the opposite. Unless he's cozying upto putin as one guy mentioned earlier. Which again seems very unlikely.



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: 23432

Sorry I don't drink kool-aid.



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Power goes out, inventory goes missing.

An attack on the olympics would be the catalyst necessary for an all out war against the Middle East.

Only speculating, I mean, stuff happens.

Here's an example:



July 29, 2008: Bruce E. Ivins, another government scientist suspected in the 2001 anthrax attacks, commits suicide.


NPR



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 07:14 PM
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Just watch out for the Micro Mini Kick scooters loaded with 17 turks and one 6.5 hp Honda lawnmower engine.

They're the ones who are life threatening. Especially to the stray dogs.



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 08:30 PM
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if the U.S. had anything to do with the coup, erdogan wouldn`t be alive right now to be making accusations.



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: yuppa

The US Military is not invincible. it's fifth generation fighters are not magical invisible aircraft. They can be detected by radar, and have been (mostly during NATO exercises but still). Nor are they available in any significant quality. I doubt the USAF wants to risk it's 184 F-22s on Turkey given the current state of the World. The gravest mistake any military can make is to underestimate it's adversary.

I think it's been emboldened by the Iraqi Invasion. Where the Air Force didn't fly and the Army & Republican Guard didn't fight.


Uh huh. with the kill ratio of the raptor(in live exercises) vs other 4th gen fighters 187 would be able to do the job nicely. Also S-300 that turkey uses have a detection range of 25 miles when the F-22 is in active stealth and ECM. Raptors using Glide bombs can hit them at 60 miles out btw. ALso flying under 75 ft also negates the S-300s engagement zone. So cruise missiles can easily destroy those sites.

It may sound cocky but they would outmatch their counterparts.

Im not saying the US airforce is invincible. im just stating that they can stomp Turkeys like a mud puddle.



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 11:55 PM
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There's been a lot ..

Military Coups in Turkey (1960--2016)


Military Coups in Turkey—(1960-2016): Turkey has a history of its military overthrowing elected governments and imposing or re-imposing its own brand of political correctness on the nation. The Turkish military, the army in particular, sees itself as the guardian of the pro-Western, secular, (or non-religious) form of government established by modern Turkey's founder, Kemal Ataturk.

Four times since the founding of the Turkish Republic in the 1920s, the military has successfully stepped in to effect a change in government. In the spring of 2007, tensions in Turkey were high as military leaders once again issued warnings to the government of the ruling conservative Justice and Development Party (AK Party) . Massive street protests by hundreds of thousands of urban secular Turks protesting the perceived religious bias of the ruling party took place, but, despite the tensions, a new coup did not occur.


catholictruthblog.com...



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 07:20 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
The bigger question to be asking is...

Why is none of this being covered by the MSM?

It's BIG news, and nary a word of it is circulating!



Well, according the local Regional Governor (Ahmet Cina), this is a non story. The base has been sealed for security, given all the recent attacks in Turkey, ahead of the visit of General Joseph Dunford (Chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff). On face value, this would make perfect sense.

The question is, do we believe it?



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 07:33 AM
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I had a feeling at the time of the coup that something was up, and that feeling only strengthened afterwards with the very quick purge and mass arrests that swiftly followed, almost like they already had a list drawn up of who to get rid of / arrest.

I still think it was all planned simply for Erdogan to consolidate power.
As for Incirlik, it's a big bargaining chip to wave about, as is the demand for a political opponent to be extradited, with conditions and threats alongside that demand.

Waving foreign plotters in front of the people is always a sure way to consolidate strength and get the populace onside!

Maybe they will tell NATO forces to leave Incirlik, and seize the nuclear weapons stationed there and move them before anyone can do anything. After all, they do have the numbers force wise to do so.



posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: 23432

Oh hello there! I've been missing your funny posts, where have you been?! Were getting new manuals?

Anyway, I hope you are not detained on charge of not praising your dictator enough, so you are still able to tell us the truth! Keep posting!

Earlier on you intimidated this forum with Russian nukes and called on NATO members to fight against "Russian aggression", what's the newest plot? To blame Europeans for being too Christian or what?

Are you really going to justify all the events, telling us about "Erdogan's fight against the Rothschilds Tyranny" here? Does oil smuggling help that?

Why you don't have the balls to admit that you are happy to use any opportunity for the sake of own power and enrichment?
Nobody will be surprised, but at least, it will absolve you from the necessity to write such nonsenses.
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posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: Britguy
I had a feeling at the time of the coup that something was up, and that feeling only strengthened afterwards with the very quick purge and mass arrests that swiftly followed, almost like they already had a list drawn up of who to get rid of / arrest.

I still think it was all planned simply for Erdogan to consolidate power.
As for Incirlik, it's a big bargaining chip to wave about, as is the demand for a political opponent to be extradited, with conditions and threats alongside that demand.

Waving foreign plotters in front of the people is always a sure way to consolidate strength and get the populace onside!

Maybe they will tell NATO forces to leave Incirlik, and seize the nuclear weapons stationed there and move them before anyone can do anything. After all, they do have the numbers force wise to do so.


Pretty sure they have a satellite monitoring That base in Turkey in geo synch orbit so its under constant surveillance. I doubt Turkey could invade that base without triggerring a instant response. the US dont do assassination(public ones) ANymore but THAT would cause a exception. If i was obama id have some deep under covers/local CIA keeping him in a scope all the time. IF he tried anything he woudnt get to enjoy it is all im saying.



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