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Hillary Takes Huge Lead in new Poll

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posted on Aug, 7 2016 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: nomoredemsorreps

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Annee
Dated today from Nate Silver 538.

And NO, he will not underestimate Trump again (for those who want to use that excuse)



Hillary Clinton’s post-convention polling surge is showing no signs of fading. She leads Donald Trump, on average, by about 7 percentage points in national polls, and is an 83-percent favorite to win on Nov. 8, according to our polls-only model. Our polls-plus model — which accounts for the “fundamentals,” as well as the tendency for a candidate’s numbers to temporarily rise after his or her convention — gives her a 76 percent chance. Those are her largest advantages since we launched our election forecasts back in June. fivethirtyeight.com...


His forecast changes dramatically day to day. There's three months to go and there is the added question of the polls distribution of dems vs reps. We'll see how it plays out. My own feeling from looking at the data is that Clinton is indeed a clear favourite but given the wide swings from week to week a lot can change. I actually think the independent voters are still very undecided which is the underlying reason for the periodic swings in voting intent.


Do you really read his site?


Nate SIlver is a freaking joke. He is so obviously skewed politically that no one should believe anything he posts. So are all the other polls that supposedly show Clinton in the lead.


NO! He's not.

Is he perfect? NO. He's human, but he is no joke.

Then there are those who choose to live in "Delusionland".



And gotta love the posters who ignore data when it doesn't agree with their delusional agenda. 50,000 people is statistically significant, as long as they were chosen randomly. The fact that they kept calling until it was 33% for each affiliation is NOT a good idea, statistically, but noone with a pea-sized brain or larger would dismiss this data.

But someone with an agenda would...I ignore people like this...




posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 01:12 AM
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a reply to: nomoredemsorreps

Looking from outside from Australia there seems to something very wrong with the polls. Trump has hugh rallies with thousands in attendance. Politicians have always known that for every one person who contacts them at least 10 more share the same opinion. Clintons rallies are small in comparison.
Further more pollesters have been criticising the methodology and the results of the polls. It is obvious that most of the media hates Trump and reports everything negatively. Whereas any other persons who was criticised the way Clinton was by the FBI would not be running for president. Something has gone seriously wrong in the USA.
Many of the honest left wingers eg Moore and Cenk have seen the problem and are warning of a Trump landslide.
Perhaps you may have a civil war if he wins or if Clinton wins and voter fraud is alleged.
The USA needs to reset itself.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 02:20 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

I'm not. Not at all but this constant harping on Hillary is wearing thin. She's ahead because the man is a walking disaster. She's ahead because she's the better choice by miles and miles. I'm up to my eyeballs in the crap that gets thrown around like these no source stupid stories on not a daily basis but an hourly one.
If she's such a useless candidate she sure takes up a lot of everyone's lives here on ATS . Scanning every garbage website on the net looking for every little story. One might call it an obsession. One might say that fear that your boy is going to lose is driving them. Like they alone can spread the word on the horrors of Hillary or the outcome will not be the one they're after.
They see it. You see it. He's going to lose. Id say everyone is scared and probably pissed too.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 02:29 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme
I have no need to rebel rouse and flag wave for Hillary.

I'm just going to quietly vote for the most experienced.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 02:31 AM
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a reply to: nomoredemsorreps

yes its laughable when people only agree with things that support there agendas like the trump supporters who totally ignore anything unless it agrees with them



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 02:52 AM
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originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Sillyolme
I have no need to rebel rouse and flag wave for Hillary.

I'm just going to quietly vote for the most experienced.


Confused now your going to vote Trump?? As we know Hillary has shown herself incapable and is probably the most flawed candidate in history. She has blown up national security and after watching 13 hrs she got people killed by just inaction. She couldn't make thr tough calls. My favorite decision thr state department made was denying security and even the machine guns that security there recommended because they ruined the astetics of thr embassy. So to keep it pretty we had amaricans die. Then there was the illegal arms deal running out thr annex by the CIA. TheN we find out that not only was her server hacked but it caused thr death of a spy we had in Iran's nuclear program. This means in the future we can gurantee we won't be able to find spys when we need to keep an eye on countries.

Then there was the incompetance if actually overthrowing long time allies in Egypt and allowing the Muslim brotherhood to take over. So know you can't even visit Egypt with out hiring a body guard. Than throw in the Obama administration and there handling of Iran. The Justice depth warmed him not to do this. But what does he do sends money to Iran and even if untrue it looks like he payed 400 million for hostages. My god is everyone going insane because Iran did exactly what I thought they would do they released video and they say it was for ransom. So even if not true the whole middle east thinks thr US will pay for hostages making ant and all amaricans in thr middle east a target.

Frankly I hate trump and have been a life long Democrat but with the corupt on and lying Hillary and the democrats have been doing I can't in good conscious be quiet. Weve had democrats resign for voter fraud we know the Clinton foundation has been accepting money from foriegn govts to buy favors no other way to look at it. And all the whileft my party did everything they could to destroy Bernie the one man that could win. Trust me thr negative ads are coming and Hillary has alot to be attacked over. When they start her numbers will drop. As I'm watching we can't expect the media to ask her tough questions she's going on a year without a press confrence. Do you think she's avoiding them because she has nothing to hide??

PS yes I'm still mad about Bernie I thought I'd be over it by now but my god hiw can people vote for this woman.
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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 03:46 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Cute.

You trying to imply Trump is the most experienced.

Bernie is the wrong person for these times.
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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:08 AM
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originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: dragonridr

Cute.

You trying to imply Trump is the most experienced.

Bernie is the wrong person for these times.


He would have won easily and had far more experience. But between Trump and Hillary unfortunately all Hillary had shown is incompetance. She failed as a senator missing half the votes. She failed as Secretary of state to the point she had to step down. You have figured out Obama requested her resignation don't you? Just the email scandal alone shows she can't be trusted with national security. We know her server was hacked the only thing we don't know is who?? then the lying about incredibly stupid things to thE point of being almost pathological. Like what on earth did she gain claiming chealsea was jogging there on 911. Or climbing she was named after Arthur Hillary the man that climbed mount everest. She was 6 at the time so unless her parents had a time machiene that's a stupid thing to say. Or even the landing under sniper fire when she knew the press was on the tarmac and watched her arrive. Nit to mention thr lies over the emails. Like saying she just wanted to use one device but to congrest admitted she had used several. Or claiming she gave all her emails to the FBI when in reality it was less than 10 percent and still over 30000 are missing. But she claimed she had over 90 percent and gave them all her work related ones. That was a lie bottom line.

PS I have a feeling people are going to wish they voted for Bernie when Trump wins thus race is his to lose. Luckily he's been doing exactly that however I see he's changing his tactics in a reboot. Look at thr last couple of days you see the change. This means his internal polls says he's behind and someone sat down and talked to him about what hes been doing. Since most undecided make up there mind in the last 30 days this race us far from over.
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posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:12 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: dragonridr

Cute.

You trying to imply Trump is the most experienced.

Bernie is the wrong person for these times.


He would have won easily and had far more experience. But between Trump and Hillary unfortunately all Hillary had shown is incompetance.


Whereas Trump has shown... what exactly?

##SNIPPED##

edit on 8-8-2016 by SudoNim because: (no reason given)

edit on Mon Aug 8 2016 by DontTreadOnMe because: off topic personal remark removed



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:18 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: dragonridr

Cute.

You trying to imply Trump is the most experienced.

Bernie is the wrong person for these times.


He would have won easily and had far more experience.


Experience at what?

Won easily? He's an Independent who chose to run as a Democrat.

Shocking, the actual Democrat won.

Oh wait, I forgot, the Democrats stole the nomination from an Independent. Uh huh.

Also amazing, if you look for positive info on Hillary, you can find that too.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 04:23 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: dragonridr

Cute.

You trying to imply Trump is the most experienced.

Bernie is the wrong person for these times.


He would have won easily and had far more experience.


Experience at what?

Won easily? He's an Independent who chose to run as a Democrat.

Shocking, the actual Democrat won.

Oh wait, I forgot, the Democrats stole the nomination from an Independent. Uh huh.

Also amazing, if you look for positive info on Hillary, you can find that too.


You do know he was a mayor then was in the house for 16 years before becoming a senator for 12. He by far was the most qualified.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 05:25 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: dragonridr

Cute.

You trying to imply Trump is the most experienced.

Bernie is the wrong person for these times.


He would have won easily and had far more experience.


Experience at what?

Won easily? He's an Independent who chose to run as a Democrat.

Shocking, the actual Democrat won.

Oh wait, I forgot, the Democrats stole the nomination from an Independent. Uh huh.

Also amazing, if you look for positive info on Hillary, you can find that too.


You do know he was a mayor then was in the house for 16 years before becoming a senator for 12. He by far was the most qualified.


It must be only democratic experience that counts.
More to the point, it would appear that no experience counts except political experience. I guess some people are comforted by those that are at home in a cess pool of corruption.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 06:25 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: dragonridr

Cute.

You trying to imply Trump is the most experienced.

Bernie is the wrong person for these times.


He would have won easily and had far more experience.


Experience at what?

Won easily? He's an Independent who chose to run as a Democrat.

Shocking, the actual Democrat won.

Oh wait, I forgot, the Democrats stole the nomination from an Independent. Uh huh.

Also amazing, if you look for positive info on Hillary, you can find that too.


You do know he was a mayor then was in the house for 16 years before becoming a senator for 12. He by far was the most qualified.


I'm a progressive globalist. (Not NWO conspiracy).

Bernie is a domestic.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Sillyolme
I have no need to rebel rouse and flag wave for Hillary.

I'm just going to quietly vote for the most experienced.


Experienced? At killing people. What an idiotic reason to vote for someone. Experience at incompetence and murder does NOT equate to something positive. I've posted this before and you've ignored it. But I'll post it for people that actually think before they vote. Anyone that does a web search on 'moriarty libya clinton dia' will find out what REALLY happened in Benghazi, and what Hillary's 'experience' really is. SMH. Experience...



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: nomoredemsorreps

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Sillyolme
I have no need to rebel rouse and flag wave for Hillary.

I'm just going to quietly vote for the most experienced.


Experienced? At killing people. What an idiotic reason to vote for someone. Experience at incompetence and murder does NOT equate to something positive. I've posted this before and you've ignored it. But I'll post it for people that actually think before they vote. Anyone that does a web search on 'moriarty libya clinton dia' will find out what REALLY happened in Benghazi, and what Hillary's 'experience' really is. SMH. Experience...


Death during times of war?

Yeah, it happens.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: Annee

But we are not at war. We are in conflicts and everywhere she went she seemed to fuel it. It is greed I think at this point when i look at it. She is protected and has been protected because she is needed now to continue the globalization of the US. The State Department under her sold the weapons that were used by terrorists in Libya, Syria, Egypt...etc. She is not for our countries best interests but the interests of those who globally have invested. This does not make her a liar but certainly not who i would vote for.

The polls? Till now I has some faith. They usually will show trend but after the DNC leak it was not shown but finally proven it is all bunk. The polls after the DNC convention. Let's recalculate to give her a yuuuggge win.

I look at the people who attend rallies for my polling and she cannot fill a coffee shop. She just cancelled some events also.

I am going to her rally today and hope to get some pics. I hope my Trump hat does not make me stand out....



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

But we are not at war. We are in conflicts and everywhere she went she seemed to fuel it. It is greed I think at this point when i look at it. She is protected and has been protected because she is needed now to continue the globalization of the US.


That's kind of nitpicking to call it a conflict. Terrorism - - the Great undeclared war.

Where she goes she fuels it? Or she goes where its fueled?

Or if you investigated others as Clinton is investigated you will find . . . .

I am a Globalist, so guess it works for me.



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Where she has gone she has empowered it. The issue I have with Globalization is that is leads to World War and not conflicts. It is almost as if an enemy has been created and is flourishing. So when the next large scale attack occurs, now that women have to register for selective service, it will be easy to thin the heard while large companies, like in WW2, profit.

Globalization to cure disease. End hunger. I understand. Humanitarian but this is about conquest and control in my mind. A scary thought...



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 12:57 PM
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Looking from outside from Australia there seems to something very wrong with the polls. Trump has hugh rallies with thousands in attendance. Politicians have always known that for every one person who contacts them at least 10 more share the same opinion. Clintons rallies are small in comparison. Further more pollesters have been criticising the methodology and the results of the polls. It is obvious that most of the media hates Trump and reports everything negatively. Whereas any other persons who was criticised the way Clinton was by the FBI would not be running for president. Something has gone seriously wrong in the USA.


It's pretty bad that those outside the country can see it way more clearly than many of them IN the country...



posted on Aug, 8 2016 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: brendanduke
a reply to: nomoredemsorreps

Looking from outside from Australia there seems to something very wrong with the polls. Trump has hugh rallies with thousands in attendance. Politicians have always known that for every one person who contacts them at least 10 more share the same opinion. Clintons rallies are small in comparison.


People who attend rallies are not necessarily those who vote, and numbers show that most voters don't attend rallies (2,000 people in a city of 1 million show up .. that's not a huge percentage.) Don't mistake shows for activism and sincerity.




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