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Mandela effect and HiddenHand

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posted on Jul, 30 2016 @ 06:06 PM
Note: hidden hand was a member here but I am not allowed to talk about members, even though many do... Only in disguise.

Many people have been witnessing the Mandela effect over these days. The ratio on YouTube videos show its a real cause. More likes than dislikes.

Hidden hand (a former member of ATS) a self proclaimed "illuminati member" was once present in 2008 answering questions ATS members had. The dialogue here explains what changes would happen after he had explained what would happen.

He told us a message and many ignored his words. For the most part, the Mandelaeffect is one I remember hidden hand explaining would happen after 2012.

Before 2012 the world was one, and in the same dimension. The third dimension.
Now many of those people who are effected by the Mandela Effect have a second chance in life. The changes around them are etheric memories and not logical memories as the majority of people claim as normal.

To tie hidden hand and the Mandela effect here is a quote I think would make sense to those who are affected by this "effect"

On, the December solstice sun will be found in the band of the Milky Way, directly in the position of the "Dark Rift" in the Galaxy, forming an alignment between the Galactic Plane and the Solstice Meridian. We are about to enter into a literal alignment of the Cosmic, Galactic, Solar, and Lunar Planes. This is an event that has slowly converged, over a period of thousands of years, and is caused by the precession of the equinoxes. Kind of like a "turning" of the Universal Gears. It brings about the Great Harvest, and the return of the Lord of The Harvest.

"Hidden Hand" posted this image to depict "Harvest"

And the planet will complete it's Ascension to the Fourth Density, the vibrational Density of Love. During this Ascension, there will be a three way split for those Souls inhabiting Earth. Those of the predominantly Negative Polarity, will accompany us as we Graduate through the Negative (or Service to Self) Harvest. We (Lucifer) will Create a new 4th Density Earth, based on the Negative Self Service Polarity. We must 'work off' our own part of the Negative Karmic effect incurred from all the Negativity created on this planet. Once we have done so, we will be released to once again assume our place as Sixth Density Guardians and Teachers of Wisdom throughout the Galaxy.

Those of the predominantly Positive Polarity (Love and Light) will Ascend to a beautiful new 4th Density Earth, where you will begin to work upon your learning and demonstrating of Love and Compassion. It will be a very beautiful and "Golden" Age. The 4th Density begins to open you up to your True Powers as a unique individualized aspect of The One Infinite Creator. You will perform works and wonders of the like that the one you call "Jesus" promised you would do "and even greater things than these". It will be a very magical time for you.

For the majority of Humans on the earth who could be considered shall we say "luke warm", they will experience a period of (what will feel 'ecstatic') zero-point time, where you feel totally at One with The Creator, giving you an encouraging reminder and glimpse of who you really are, before the veil of forgetfulness once again descends upon you, and you will be transported to another 3rd Density planet (a kind of 'Earth Replica'), to continue working upon yourselves and learning that life here is all about making choices. You will remain "quarantined" incarnating in 3rd Density matter until the time of the next Harvest; in which time you will need to have proved yourselves that you have learned how to be more Positive Beings, focused more upon being of Service to others, rather than seeking only to Serve yourself. When you can do this, and the next Harvest comes, you will have earned the right to join us, and enjoy your inheritance, as a member of the Galactic Community, and you will sit with us as Brothers and Sisters of The One, around the table of our Galactic Governing Body, the Confederation of Planets.

Well, I have imparted much during this session, with thanks to the quality of your enquiries, and I must now take my leave for today.

If you have further questions on the Harvest you wish me to speak in more detail on, if you ask, I can answer. Or any other questions you have too on other matters, I will get to them all as time allows, as with the other (respectfully asked) questions here since I took these away with me to reply to earlier.

If time permits, I will check in with you tomorrow."

I'll leave this up to mods to delete or not cause they hate me as well as everyone else lol

posted on Jul, 30 2016 @ 06:12 PM
a reply to: luciferslight

it certainly is real. I have seen some new videos where people went above and beyond to show differences and even upticks in google searches by spelling. So many upticks in 2008.

I am not sure about 'one with the creator and such' . I am not sure about the member you mention.

There is a thread, somewhere in there.

edit on 30-7-2016 by reldra because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 30 2016 @ 07:08 PM
a reply to: reldra

The creator part was there because he was trying to piece together why religion isn't what it is.

posted on Jul, 30 2016 @ 07:11 PM
I don't think there was a better time in the history of ATS.

Lots of stuff ... such an enjoyable place to enter and lose yourself.

posted on Jul, 30 2016 @ 07:29 PM
Presumably we're in the service to self or lukewarm reality were this true.

I've got some problems with it though. Funnily enough I actually did experience an ecstatic spiritual state sometime around 2012-2013. However, what about all the kids at the time of transition? You condemn them to another few thousand years on earth? While I could believe I personally am not enough of a service to others kind of guy, I know a lot of people that I think are totally service to others.

posted on Jul, 30 2016 @ 07:32 PM
a reply to: luciferslight

So you judge the validity of something based on YouTube video likes?

Deep, man. Deep.

posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 12:39 AM
a reply to: luciferslight

"Hidden Hand" posted this image to depict "Harvest"

Did you mean to post an image, because I did not see an image. Maybe something wrong with my phone? Or did you mean it as "to paint a picture with words" sort of thing, using the following paragraphs?

posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 04:54 AM
Can't help but agree. Here I thought I had the stuff to ascend but after having to be witness to this farce of an election only validated I'm in deed stuck here for another go. :/

posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 04:07 PM
a reply to: Rosinitiate

You're not stuck here. It was never true. In my mind, he hinted at that when he said it wasn't important if his story was true because his moral message was true.

Also, what system would have "think of others over 50% of the time" as a rule? It's silly, and you literally cannot do that no matter how selfless you are. If he meant make choices that benefit others and not yourself 50% of the time then that's not difficult I guess. But it was just some dude with good intentions trying to change what he could.

posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 04:59 PM
Great, so I got left behind and now have to reincarnate for another few thousand years?

ME experiencers are now on the 3rd density replica earth?

According to HH anyway.

Note to self: Make better choices! Upgrade to the 6th dimension.
edit on 31-7-2016 by GoShredAK because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 05:07 PM
a reply to: luciferslight

And yet there is ZERO evidence to the supposed ME effect. Nothing. Not one.

All I ever hear are film quotes being remembered wrong by people and the name of books.

No major historical events, no wars being won by someone else. Nothing to that effect.

And interestingly, there is NO evidence to the contrary because, surprise surprise - those who argue against ME are from Earth2 or Timeline X or 'whatever'.

Also - how can the alignment of planetary bodies make ANY difference to you or ME? How? What is the physical explanation of how this happens? I'm keen to know.

posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 05:09 PM

originally posted by: noonebutme
No major historical events, no wars being won by someone else. Nothing to that effect.

In my timeline the French got their butts kicked in every war they fought. What about yours?

posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 01:46 AM
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

If I 'Mandela Effect' correctly, the Vietnam War was won by the US, with the help of a large blue man who -- no wait, that was the Watchmens. Yes, I'm 100% positive it was Watchmens. With an 's'. I remember it that way and even though all references online and even my own Bluray has no 's' on it, it is definitely Watchmens.

if you disagree you are from Earth2. You just wouldn't understand. I also won't explain my innate, special privileged knowledge to you apart from cryptic metaphors.

I can post multiple youtube links as well -- those are 100% proof and when combined, become irrefutable.

posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 03:20 AM
a reply to: Chadwickus

Youtube strikes again....amazing.

posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:24 PM
a reply to: Snarl

I always thought he was a intellectual Christian, because of the whole Revelation thing and God and so on. Also that he read the Ra material. Maybe he really was a member but who knows.

posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:26 PM
a reply to: WhateverYouSay

Well due to the "no I am your father, or Luke I am your father" thing I assume we transcended into a high dimensional plane.

It's weird we have transcended but it doesn't feel that way.

Me personally, I think I have achieved the high positive plane, because I see these Mandela effect changes. It's weird but ah well

posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:28 PM
a reply to: Chadwickus

It's not the source but the time and day I check. I know many expose this as a hoax or unbelievable but that's the thing.

Most people who see the changes are or were affected in some way during the whole 2012 end of era thing. maybe those who dont see it are in the Lukewarm stage and need to be positive or negative. If they don't choose, they lose themselves and eventually don't exist. They lose their soul in this "game" called life.

posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:30 PM
a reply to: 3n19m470

Sorry I copied the text from the source and it posted that.

Here is the link if you want to see them images and dialogue.

posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:32 PM
a reply to: Rosinitiate

Possibility your reality consists negativity. But don't worry, you'll ascended into the positive 4th dimension once the human race repays it's karma debt.

posted on Aug, 1 2016 @ 09:34 PM
a reply to: GoShredAK

It's not about waiting a thousand years. It's more like the choice you make. For example, what will you choose. A healthy snack or a cigarette. Helping someone in need or forgetting about them hoping a bystander helps them.

These small decisions help or hurt the person in this life.

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