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Why I Hate Obama in 19 Seconds

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posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: reldra
13 flags? Who are these 13 people who think this is good? Please post and say why.


In fairness, I think a lot of people flag a topic because they don't know that they can subscribe to it instead if they want to easily return to it - BTW, I'm not one of the flaggers.




posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: Hazardous1408

true. Metallicus disrupted all of us. It takes 10 minutes to look at the video and change the forum. but we disrupted breakfast.
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posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Not "chastised".

Reassured that our attention on the mater is at hand and being discussed.

Please by all means, keep alerting things.



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
Here is an explanation for the video, it was edited to change the meaning of his original speech.
Politifact
Although, I suspect that he harbors the belief given in the video, but he would never state it to the public.


solid find. since this is rated "pants on fire" I suggest the OP post an apology or the mods lock it and delete it



A reader recently asked us to look at a YouTube video clip of President Barack Obama that puzzled them. The chain email that included the link to the video said, "You may not believe this 20 second sound bite. I had to listen to it twice ... to be sure that I heard what I thought I had heard. This is the most amazing statement ever uttered by Obama, or by any American." The brief video showed Obama giving a speech in which he said, "And for the international order that we have worked for generations to build, ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign." The YouTube video originated with a group from Germany that appears to dabble in conspiracy theories, including a focus on the "new world order" -- the notion of an emerging, worldwide, totalitarian government. Translated into English, the YouTube video is titled, "Obama explains the new world order 2014 in short ^^ – montage."

It had received more than 88,000 views through June 20. It’s unclear whether the video was posted seriously or in jest by the German group; the emoticon "^^" sometimes communicates sarcasm. Still, that doesn’t play into our fact-check, because what we’re checking here is how the video circulated in English in the United States -- where there was no indication that it was intended as satire. We tracked down the speech Obama was giving. It was an address to European youth at the Palais des Beaux Arts in Brussels on March 26, 2014. But while the clip comes from a genuine White House video, it has been edited to make an entirely different point than the one Obama was making.

Here’s the actual context of Obama’s comments:

Leaders and dignitaries of the European Union; representatives of our NATO Alliance; distinguished guests: We meet here at a moment of testing for Europe and the United States, and for the international order that we have worked for generations to build. Throughout human history, societies have grappled with fundamental questions of how to organize themselves, the proper relationship between the individual and the state, the best means to resolve inevitable conflicts between states.

And it was here in Europe, through centuries of struggle -- through war and Enlightenment, repression and revolution -- that a particular set of ideals began to emerge: The belief that through conscience and free will, each of us has the right to live as we choose. The belief that power is derived from the consent of the governed, and that laws and institutions should be established to protect that understanding. And those ideas eventually inspired a band of colonialists across an ocean, and they wrote them into the founding documents that still guide America today, including the simple truth that all men -- and women -- are created equal. But those ideals have also been tested -- here in Europe and around the world. Those ideals have often been threatened by an older, more traditional view of power. This alternative vision argues that ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs, that order and progress can only come when individuals surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign. Often, this alternative vision roots itself in the notion that by virtue of race or faith or ethnicity, some are inherently superior to others, and that individual identity must be defined by "us" versus "them," or that national greatness must flow not by what a people stand for, but by what they are against.

In other words, the creator of the video slyly spliced together two separate passages of Obama’s speech during a cut-away shot -- in a way that totally changes the meaning. Obama wasn’t saying that "ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs" or that individuals should "surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign." Rather, he was saying that those two sentiments run counter to the ideals of free will and democracy. Our ruling The chain email claims that Obama said that "ordinary men and women are too small-minded to govern their own affairs" and that individuals should "surrender their rights to an all-powerful sovereign." Those are two separate thoughts from an actual speech, spliced together through video editing in a way that twists Obama’s argument beyond recognition. We rate it Pants on Fire.

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posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: eriktheawful
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Not "chastised".

Reassured that our attention on the mater is at hand and being discussed.

Please by all means, keep alerting things.


We were told we were spamming the button. But oddly, there is some cooldown with the button. I know this. Say I alert a bastardization of a politiians name and then 20 minutes later I see something very bad, I can;t alert it. I get a message that I need to wait to alert again. So individuals can;t 'spam the button'. So I think you meant all of us?
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posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: reldra

PC/SJW is the most entirely US VS. THEM 'new' ideology since the Nazi's. Still waiting for any of you to try and break that assessment apart... will you be the first to attempt it oh 'fast' one?


No, it's not. Never has been. And to back up your position you quote your own thread about anti depressants? HMM

You don't like poeple that care about others, so you somewhow try to link it to nazis. Sure..that makes a ton of sense.


I think that's the most desperate deflection I've seen you make. As long as none of you cane deal with that thread it discredits you all. Enjoy your day!



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: reldra

It's the MUD PIT quit crying that's what this forum is for.



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: reldra

PC/SJW is the most entirely US VS. THEM 'new' ideology since the Nazi's. Still waiting for any of you to try and break that assessment apart... will you be the first to attempt it oh 'fast' one?


No, it's not. Never has been. And to back up your position you quote your own thread about anti depressants? HMM

You don't like poeple that care about others, so you somewhow try to link it to nazis. Sure..that makes a ton of sense.


I think that's the most desperate deflection I've seen you make. As long as none of you cane deal with that thread it discredits you all. Enjoy your day!


1) you don;t make any sense.
2) You don't make any sense.
3)......Oh ya. You don;t make an sense.



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: reldra

It's the MUD PIT quit crying that's what this forum is for.


It doesn't mean NO rules.



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Please don't be an enthusiastic part of the ignorant electorate. Challenge everything even it is suits your worldview. Demand corroboration and evidence.

It took me 30 seconds to discover this video is either satire and sacrasm or a joke.

I think you owe the board an apology for posting this as if it were real.

This type of propaganda is part of the problem, not the solution.



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: reldra

If that's true you have an entire BOOK there of material to pick apart, yet so far from actual SJW's about the best we've seen in there is complaining about the way I wield my English. My favorite is SJW's complaining that in it I talk like an SJW (which was kinda the point to show how FAKE & HOLLOW your movement actually is)! LOL

You can all keep pushing on like it never happened with your usual bait-switch-ignore playbook, but it happened and it aint going away.
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posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:20 AM
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I think it will come down to this;

mud pit:




3) Everything but vulgarities and threats are "tolerated." We've come to accept that many feel the "political stakes" are so high, that intense debate is necessary, and very often name-calling, baiting, and activity we've previously classified as "Political Trolling" are simply part of the process. Have at. But don't come running to us if someone throws mud harder than you, or hides rocks in their pile of mud.


If the mods find this to be simple 'political trolling' it is allowed. I hope they don't. It is a hoax and doctored.
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posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: syrinx high priest

originally posted by: butcherguy
Here is an explanation for the video, it was edited to change the meaning of his original speech.
Politifact
Although, I suspect that he harbors the belief given in the video, but he would never state it to the public.


solid find. since this is rated "pants on fire" I suggest the OP post an apology or the mods lock it and delete it


It happens. You guys are freaking out like he was up all night making the video just to disingenuously stir the pot today. LOL



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: reldra

If that's true you have an entire BOOK there of material to pick apart, yet so far from actual SJW's about the best we've seen in there is complaining about the way I wield my English. My favorite is SJW's complaining that in it I talk like an SJW! LOL

You can all keep pushing on like it never happened with your usual bait-switch-ignore playbook, but it happened and it aint going away.


I don;t know what you are saying, truthfully.
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posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: reldra

That would probably be because you keep avoiding it.
Maybe this is a better suited topic for you:
The origins of: "la la la can't hear you" ?



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: syrinx high priest

originally posted by: butcherguy
Here is an explanation for the video, it was edited to change the meaning of his original speech.
Politifact
Although, I suspect that he harbors the belief given in the video, but he would never state it to the public.


solid find. since this is rated "pants on fire" I suggest the OP post an apology or the mods lock it and delete it


It happens. You guys are freaking out like he was up all night making the video just to disingenuously stir the pot today. LOL


He didn;t make the video up. But he knows better. He KNEW it was doctored. He knows because I know he is intelligent.



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: reldra

That would probably be because you keep avoiding it.
Maybe this is a better suited topic for you:
The origins of: "la la la can't hear you" ?


Maybe that is a good thing, now I am avoiding you.



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: reldra

You don't KNOW he KNEW it. He might have just happened to notice it and went AHA and posted it. I wasn't paying too close attention when I hit play and didn't notice the splicings, and it could be argued I have a real knack for video editing.



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: reldra

Sets precedent for the future of the Mudpit if they don't remove it.


We can post all the hoaxes we want and pretend we didn't know.
Then ignore everyone who posts proof of said hoax.


This thread is a disaster.



posted on Jul, 29 2016 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: reldra

That would probably be because you keep avoiding it.
Maybe this is a better suited topic for you:
The origins of: "la la la can't hear you" ?


Maybe that is a good thing, now I am avoiding you.


So I was right then, you've been avoiding it la la la cant hear me. Well maybe one day one of your lot will step up to the challenge of "debunking" my presentation there where I made it uber clear that the whole SJW game is US VS THEM Social Group Warfare (SGW), so much so that it's Nazi'esque Identity Politics / Authoritarian tactics not merely 'just like' the Nazi's, but covering essentially their 'entire' playbook (some such examples even scarier in modern practice) the Nazi's used to rise to power (to get their people to start a world war, and exterminate the Jews).







 
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