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Why Don't American Mothers/Fathers Demand Maternity/Paternity Leave?

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posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:07 AM
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I've just started writing a lengthy article on maternity leave for a health group here in Canada. I haven't done all of my research yet, so don't consider me an expert, but it made me wonder...Why don't American parents demand some sort of leave to care for their newborns?

Is this something you even desire, or is it something you don't miss because it's never been available to you?

Here in Canada, maternity/paternity leave works like unemployment. As long as you have worked the requisite number of hours prior to your leave (varies by province) you are entitled to benefits that (again, depending on province) are about 55% of your wages up to a maximum amount. The benefit period is 1 year, and can be split between parents.
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posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

At the hospital where I work, I think there is a 6-week period they allow you to take for maternity leave (I'm not sure if it applies for fathers/males as well, but I would assume it can be requested)



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: FamCore

As a person who is entitled to federally supported maternity leave, it's nice to see that some employers in the US are stepping up.



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

They do and can get maternity leave. For a long time now. And recently...fathers have been granted the same when decided a father is as much needed in the 1st few months of a newborns life as well.



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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Why should employers accommodate maternity or paternity leave? Don't get me wrong it's nice, but why should the employer be liable for employee personal decisions?



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: Atsbhct
I've just started writing a lengthy article on maternity leave for a health group here in Canada. I haven't done all of my research yet, so don't consider me an expert, but it made me wonder...Why don't American parents demand some sort of leave to care for their newborns?

Is this something you even desire, or is it something you don't miss because it's never been available to you?

Here in Canada, maternity/paternity leave works like unemployment. As long as you have worked the requisite number of hours prior to your leave (varies by province) you are entitled to benefits that (again, depending on province) are about 55% of your wages up to a maximum amount. The benefit period is 1 year, and can be split between parents.


Some companies have started offering extended paternity leave.

I think it is a good idea. However, I think the clash is with corporate culture in the states. Many men are breadwinners and wouldn't want to be out of the office too long as it could hurt their career prospects.

I was fortunate in that I have a very flexible work schedule, so I was able to spend a lot of time at home with my son after he was born. I would not have traded it for anything, but not everyone is as fortunate.

It is funny though. My wife is an executive managing a sizable team. As a woman, she always complains about not having enough paid maternity leave. However, as a manager, she admits that when one of her team leaves for maternity leave, it is pain in the ass in terms of how work is managed.



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:24 AM
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Edit to add: Canada now provides 365 days of benefits.
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posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

Who said they dont? My wife and I both got time off.

EDIT: Your little propaganda graph is wrong. We both got paid, although I don't believe an employer should be forced to do that.




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posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

Corporate culture is a great point, thank you.



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: avgguy
Why should employers accommodate maternity or paternity leave? Don't get me wrong it's nice, but why should the employer be liable for employee personal decisions?


People don't realize how disruptive to the work place maternity leave can be. I fully appreciate when companies offer it, but at the same time, people also have to realize that the employees work just doesn't disappear. The company has to figure out how to get that work completed in that employee's absence.



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

I guess the question is, why has almost every country except for the US figured out how to work around this?



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: TheBulk

Lol, propaganda graph. Relax, I'm just looking for opinions.

So you're saying your employer covered your leave? I think that's great.



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: Atsbhct
a reply to: TheBulk

Lol, propaganda graph. Relax, I'm just looking for opinions.

So you're saying your employer covered your leave? I think that's great.


It was nice of them, but it shouldn't be required. Why do my personal activities and not working require my employer to pay me for not working? I know you think you're being generous, but it's not your money and forcing people to do what you want them to do with their money is authoritarian.
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posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: avgguy

Would you sack a woman who mid shift gave birth and thus could not finish the shift?



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:43 AM
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What sucks is sure many employers in the US will give both mothers and fathers some time off. Paid time off though? Rarely. Laws for paid time off? You must be dreaming. It is corporation and company rule here.

Many a citizen here would probably deem that socialism or something absurd.
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posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: Maxatoria

No, but I wouldn't pay somebody for It just like I wouldn't pay for somebody who got a puppy.

I'm just playing devils advocate.
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posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: TheBulk

I suppose the difference between Canada and the U.S. would be that Canadians pay into unemployment benefits for their working life, and this is where parental leave benefits come from. Most people never draw unemployment benefits, but they're there if you need them.

I can definitely see the frustration of US employers if they alone would have to pay out the benefits.



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: lightedhype
What sucks is sure many employers in the US will give both mothers and fathers some time off. Paid time off though? Rarely. Laws for paid time off? You must be dreaming. It is corporation and company rule here.

Many a citizen here would probably deem that socialism or something absurd.


But why? It's a beneficial leave that almost everyone else in the world qualifies for.



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: lightedhype
What sucks is sure many employers in the US will give both mothers and fathers some time off. Paid time off though? Rarely. Laws for paid time off? You must be dreaming. It is corporation and company rule here.

Many a citizen here would probably deem that socialism or somethinIg absurd.


I think there should be a law that requires you and like minded individuals of footing the bill.



posted on Jul, 28 2016 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: Atsbhct
a reply to: Edumakated

I guess the question is, why has almost every country except for the US figured out how to work around this?


They haven't figured out how to work around it...it is disruptive. It is one of the reasons why unemployment is so high in many countries with lavish worker benefits. Companies can't hire and fire at will and creates high unemployment as companies are incentived not to hire people for fear they can't get rid of them.

My wife was telling me about a lady in Europe who has been employed by this company like 10 years but really only worked about 3 or 4 years since she keeps having children because of the extended maternity leave. They can't get rid of her job.




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