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Pure facts no opinions no guessing ,no if's and or buts,its fact he was born where he was born, it's fact that he held 2 terms in office, it's fact that he has been a good president and its fact that nobody can do any thing about it.Congrates Barack Hussein Obama II (reportedly born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961) is the 44th President of the United States.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
It's a mystery to all of us but we know why,it's so obvious.
Yeah, I guess the mystery is that people continue to fall for it when the facts are right in front of their faces...
Debossed or Embossed?
I swear to God i feel the same way and it's just...to much negative, unwanted energy,i never seen this before on any other forum in my life.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
It's really sad how much of a right wing cesspool this place has turned into recently.
However, that is just how regular Hawaiian birth certificates are. Miss Tickly is an extreme literalist when reading regulations, and if you follow her, you would conclude that Hawaiian birth certificates are all illegal and invalid. One person’s impressed seal is another person’s embossed seal; it just depends on how you look at it. So yes, the seal is impressed, and no, there’s nothing special about Obama’s seal.
originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
I swear to God i feel the same way and it's just...to much negative, unwanted energy,
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Read the paragraph! ALL Hawaii birth certificates are like that! Take 4 seconds to say this to yourself... "Perhaps I'm missing some information here. Am I basing my opinion on fact?"...
Hawaii Public Health Regulations, Chapter 8b
2.4 Issuance of Certified Copies of Vital Records
B. Standards for Copies of Vital Records
(1) Standard Copy
(b) Form of certification. Standard certified copies shall contain an appropriate certification statement over the signature of the registrar having custody of the record and be impressed with the RAISED seal of the issuing office. The signature may be photographed or entered by mechanical means. The paper shall display the official seal of the Department of Health or the seal of the State.
(2) Abbreviated Copy
(b) Form of certification. This will be the same as for a standard certified copy.
originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
I swear to God i feel the same way and it's just...to much negative, unwanted energy,i never seen this before on any other forum in my life.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
It's really sad how much of a right wing cesspool this place has turned into recently.
originally posted by: Agartha
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
Oh, come now...I don't believe that most non-Americans are race-baiting piles of crap.
wow....classy and charming.
You don't know me. You are in no position to judge me. Do you know that I specifically bought my home in an integrated neighborhood because I wanted my children to be raised with diverse neighbors? Do you know that I support locally-owned minority businesses with my dollars and not by racebaiting and running my mouth? Do you know that the people in my life that are important to me are diverse?
Here's an answer as to why this subject interested me: I was a Hillary supporter in 2008 -- there's my 'bias.' I felt that Obama dragging his feet on releasing his birth certificate was suspect. I felt the first image he released of the document was suspicious because it did not show the one and only feature that authenticates it: The raised official seal of the Hawaii Department of Health. The Department of Health concurred that this was the reason most people had a hard time accepting the record was authentic. (See the quote in my OP). And note also, in her comment, that she said it was IMPOSSIBLE to say what the first image of Obama's short form birth certificate really represented.
And yet, you continue with this birth certificate business in 2016 when he posted his full one in 2011 with a Hawaian offical confirming it was authentic.
But, please, continue with your racebaiting. It really just shows how you are willing to EXPLOIT feelings of racial injustice -- without a care to the damage that does -- in order to score political points.
I just say how it looks from another country: he was the only one whose legitimacy was queried. No other candidate was asked to do the same and the only thing that's different with Obama is his skin colour. I wouldn't say this if there were threads about Trump's birth legitimacy, despite the fact that his mums is foreign.
And, BTW, the Natural-Born Citizen clause was written specifically to thwart foreign influence...so why should foreign opinions on this particular subject matter one bit?
You are in a public international forum where we all have the right to give our own opinion. Perhaps you don't realize how arrogant your last sentence was.
TextI just say how it looks from another country: he was the only one whose legitimacy was queried. No other candidate was asked to do the same and the only thing that's different with Obama is his skin colour. I wouldn't say this if there were threads about Trump's birth legitimacy, despite the fact that his mums is foreign.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Instead of puking up the same picture time and time again, take a few minutes and READ the source I linked.
However, that is just how regular Hawaiian birth certificates are. Miss Tickly is an extreme literalist when reading regulations, and if you follow her, you would conclude that Hawaiian birth certificates are all illegal and invalid. One person’s impressed seal is another person’s embossed seal; it just depends on how you look at it. So yes, the seal is impressed, and no, there’s nothing special about Obama’s seal.
I will try will be very hard but will try thanks.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
I swear to God i feel the same way and it's just...to much negative, unwanted energy,
The only way to change that is to offer up good energy. Please don't leave.
I put my immortal soul that they will ,that's how deeply rooted it is.
originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
a reply to: Agartha
I sure hope they do not continue with this crap when he is out of office....
Can you provide documents as to being a graphic designer ?
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: ImmortalLegend527
See ya! Don't let the door hit you on your way out!
originally posted by: James1982
Forgot to say, as for the OP, this is very interesting. I was never a birther and most of the evidence pushed by them seemed ridiculous to me, but what you post seems to very clearly show SOMETHING is off. If the birth certificate itself isn't suspect then the article that was used to prove it's authenticity sure is.
Don't let the deflectors and cry babies put you off, I appreciate the effort you have put into this and would love it if someone on the "other side" would actually address the information instead of deflecting with typical dismissive and content-lacking posts.
originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
Can you provide documents as to being a graphic designer ?
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: ImmortalLegend527
See ya! Don't let the door hit you on your way out!
originally posted by: ImmortalLegend527
a reply to: MotherMayEye
What blog is this, can you provide a link and your certification papers on being a graphic designer?