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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
No it doesn't. When your words are shocking foreign policy political experts, then you should take note. But I guess expert opinion is irrelevant when it comes to the world of trump and his zealous defenders.
Thanks for the tu quoque fallacy bringing up Hillary btw.
Nations pursue their interests, whether other countries like it or not. Great powers in particular, including the United States, often meddle in foreign elections.
But such operations are conducted in secret because they are hostile acts, meant to subvert the will of the targeted country’s population and the sanctity of its institutions. Mr. Trump, in openly inviting such foreign interference, was undercutting one of the most fundamental national interests of a democratic state.
“Nobody ever — and I think I can be confident about this — nobody ever stood up at a podium and said, ‘Bring it on,’” said Jeremy Shapiro, a Brookings Institution scholar of foreign policy, referring to Mr. Trump’s invitation for a foreign power to meddle in his own country’s politics.
Though rare, previous American politicians have looked abroad for help with votes at home.
In 1968, as President Lyndon B. Johnson’s administration tried to broker peace talks in Vietnam, a Republican activist encouraged South Vietnamese officials to resist the talks, which they did. The activist, who represented herself as speaking for the Republican presidential candidate, Richard M. Nixon, said Mr. Nixon would get South Vietnam a better deal. According to documents that were later declassified, a South Vietnamese official was recorded as saying that his government had refused to participate in the talks as a way “to help Nixon.”
More recently, in 2012, the Republican presidential challenger, Mitt Romney, cultivated ties with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. While Mr. Netanyahu did not explicitly endorse Mr. Romney, he frequently voiced his acute dissatisfaction with President Obama in comments to the American news media.
Three years later, as Mr. Obama tried to strike a nuclear deal with Iran, congressional Republicans invited Mr. Netanyahu to condemn the proposed accord in a speech to Congress.
While this arguably violated the norms of foreign policy by circumventing the White House on a matter of foreign relations, and by inviting an ally to intervene against the president in a domestic political dispute, Mr. Trump went a large step further in soliciting an adversary, and encouraging it to violate United States law on his behalf.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Krazysh0t
You didn't name the experts. There is no way to know if the expert is biased. There is sufficient disagreement. Text-book appeal to authority.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Krazysh0t
You didn't name the experts. There is no way to know if the expert is biased. There is sufficient disagreement. Text-book appeal to authority.
I don't have to name them. Their names are listed in the article I posted. Now you are admitting you didn't even read my source.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Krazysh0t
You didn't name the experts. There is no way to know if the expert is biased. There is sufficient disagreement. Text-book appeal to authority.
I don't have to name them. Their names are listed in the article I posted. Now you are admitting you didn't even read my source.
You never gave me any source, which you are now claiming you did.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I find it strange that someone who is supposed to be "making america great again" would ask a foreign power to break american law to circumvent one of America's oldest traditions established by our most sacred document and none of y'all find that upsetting in the slightest. Even if that was a joke, that is a VERY disturbing thing to hear from the guy who could be holding our nuclear codes in the near future.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
That's besides the point I'm making, but thanks for trying to make the thread about me. It really shows how low brow your arguing techniques have become.