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originally posted by: SudoNim
originally posted by: GoShredAK
a reply to: SudoNim
Owning an effective tool for protecting your family does not make you a "gun nut," it makes you smart.
Please provide evidence that a gun is an effective tool for protecting your family.
Because statistics prove it isn't.
originally posted by: AceWombat04
I don't own a gun and likely never will. I loath guns personally. But risk of danger is the cost of liberty, and I will not advocate any gun or ammunition bans for those who don't feel as I do about them. Background checks, closing loopholes, etc. I am all for. Perhaps even mandatory safety training and usage instruction, as we have for operating vehicles. I could get behind that. But banning specific guns or ammunition (unless we're talking about absurdities like wanting to own and use tanks for personal defense etc.) is not something I can support.
Liberty is more important than safety.
Again, I loath guns and want nothing to do with them, but that's where I stand. Am I a coward?
Peace.
originally posted by: Kromlech
originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: TheLaughingGod
Do you know many people outside the realms of fantasy. I mean we aren't all fictional characters from a WarHammer book.
This isn't about freedom or being pro/anti government. Its about common sense.
You are a bigger threat to your own family than any criminal will ever be if you own a gun. Dress it anyway you like.
You pick and choose what you want the Government to do for you. Here you sit on your computer, using electricity to access the internet and complain that people don't do everything for themselves. Hypocrisy, thy name is you.
Criminals with guns committing crimes FAR OUTWEIGH a few mishaps in the homes of gun owners. How much crime have you read about today?? ENDLESS. NO one is saying mishaps "don't" happen. But crime blatantly outweighs said "mishaps." There are RESPONSIBLE gun owners, and there are IRRESPONSIBLE ones. Can you not decipher between the two?
originally posted by: chuck258
Statistics haven't proven they AREN'T effective tools either. The government has refused to allow a truly unbiased study of the issue.
originally posted by: six67seven
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti
This is the mudpit, correct? Yes?!? Good, lets get to it. You are a Grade A idiot and ignorant of, well many things, but first and foremost a cornerstone of America.
Another cornerstone is the freedom of speech, which is your right and I respect that but I dont have to respect you or your opinion....in addition, freedom of speech provides idiots like you the platform to step out into the light and expose your idiocy.
Someone with your intellect would next get on their soapbox about the danger of knives, trucks and pressure-cookers, and how anyone who uses them is a coward.
Keep up the good work!!
originally posted by: SudoNim
originally posted by: Kromlech
originally posted by: SudoNim
a reply to: TheLaughingGod
Do you know many people outside the realms of fantasy. I mean we aren't all fictional characters from a WarHammer book.
This isn't about freedom or being pro/anti government. Its about common sense.
You are a bigger threat to your own family than any criminal will ever be if you own a gun. Dress it anyway you like.
You pick and choose what you want the Government to do for you. Here you sit on your computer, using electricity to access the internet and complain that people don't do everything for themselves. Hypocrisy, thy name is you.
Criminals with guns committing crimes FAR OUTWEIGH a few mishaps in the homes of gun owners. How much crime have you read about today?? ENDLESS. NO one is saying mishaps "don't" happen. But crime blatantly outweighs said "mishaps." There are RESPONSIBLE gun owners, and there are IRRESPONSIBLE ones. Can you not decipher between the two?
I can decipher between the two. Also the crime committed by PREVIOUSLY RESPONSIBLE gun owners OUTWEIGHS the crime it prevents.
What i'm saying is even responsible gun owners AREN'T protecting their family.
Lets put this into a picture to help you understand.
originally posted by: Kromlech
GOOD people with guns = a good thing.
originally posted by: KawRider9
Us cowards are the reason the US has never been invaded by a foreign army.
That said, when are you tough guys going to attempt to disarm us cowards?
I'll be over here waiting...
originally posted by: tow69
So I have been reading all this and was even verbally attacked by TheAmazingYeti
So I keep hearing the NO GUN FOLKS saying they want America just like the rest of the world
Well if you Anti-Gun lovin folks don't like OUR laws ---- Than Leave
There are plenty of places you can live where folks don't have guns, you should feel really safe there
As for America we have our Constitution to defend, the oath is below.. Ohh it is the same oath every President, Secretary of State, Current and former Military personnel, Police Officer ECT.... take at the time of service
I wonder how many ANTI-GUN folks have raised their hands for the oath????????
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)
originally posted by: KawRider9
Us cowards are the reason the US has never been invaded by a foreign army.
That said, when are you tough guys going to attempt to disarm us cowards?
I'll be over here waiting...
originally posted by: Asktheanimals
I NEED a gun if I want to protect my wife or myself.
I'm disabled and couldn't beat up a 4th grader nor can I just run away from trouble.
Thanks for the label, I'll put my coward sign right next to my useless eater plaque.