Perspective.

Look at some numbers with a clear head. I will make a list and oppose some numbers.. I would like a peaceful solution to all our problems.


Terrorism France 2016 so far 87 Deaths/ 208 Injured.

Population of France 64,688,464. ( Muslims 10% approx )

France Car smash deaths 3000+/Y, Gun Crime Deaths -100


Terrorism Germany 2016 so Far 4 Deaths/ 21 Injured.

Population of Germany 80,691,890 ( Muslims 6% Approx )

Germany Car Smash deaths 3500+/Y, Gun Crime Deaths -200


Terrorism UK 2016 so far 1 Death 0 Injured ( Far Right )

Population UK 65,140,661 ( Muslims 5% Approx )

UK Car Smash deaths 1800+/Y, Gun Crime Deaths -100


Terrorism in the USA 2016 so far 57 Dead 71 Injured . ( ?? )

Population USA 324,294,055 ( Muslims 2% Approx )

USA Car Smash Deaths 34000+/Y, Gun Crime Deaths 9000 +


www.datagraver.com...

www.muslimpopulation.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

www.theguardian.com...

It seems that cars need to be fighted, at all costs...

a reply to: skywatcher44

Hey skywatcher, can i ask what your trying to achieve?

Are you trying to compare terrorist attacks with car crash deaths? In which road incidents are the largest cause of un-natural death in the world?

Its rather unfair to juxtapose these two comparisons?

At the start you say

I would like a peaceful solution to all our problems

So i assume, you want me to give you a list of safety precautions for road safety?

a reply to: skywatcher44

Is it just me that is struggling to understand the point of the opening post?

a reply to: AMNicks

I am saying some of the hatred spewed on ATS with regards to recent incidents is uncalled for, i.e Internment camps, repatriations and other scarmongerings.

a reply to: skywatcher44

As expected, i hope people see this post for what it is...

You cannot condone terrorism simply because they dont kill as many people as car "smashes" do!

"but but judge, i know i killed that man but if you look at the latest reports on death by heart failure youll see that sending me to jail is uncalled for"

Erm? no, it doesnt work quite like that..

originally posted by: skywatcher44
a reply to: AMNicks

I am saying some of the hatred spewed on ATS with regards to recent incidents is uncalled for, i.e Internment camps, repatriations and other scarmongerings.

First of all, do you think there is an actual problem or do you think the world is just how it was 10 years ago?
If you acknowledge that there is a problem [which any sane person should], we need a solution.

You are annoyed about non-lethal solutions, such as camps and repatriations? You have a go at us for trying to solve a massive deadly problem by non-lethal methods?

What on earth is YOUR alternative? Backrubs and hugs?

Would you have said the same about Nazis after what they did?
Bombing ALL Germans wasn't fair but it blooming well stopped them. Sometimes you have to do stuff that isn't nice in order to keep peace amongst people, or you'll end up joining the enemy. [I say that as a German]

How about you show a bit of backbone and solidarity to your fellow Europeans that died at the hands of these monsters instead of trying to get worried about hurting the perpetrators. I am actually offended by your post.

originally posted by: Dark Ghost
a reply to: skywatcher44

Is it just me that is struggling to understand the point of the opening post?

I think you get it. But , you want to stay PC
same here.

a reply to: skywatcher44
Cars do not intend to kill anyone - terrorists do
Pitiful
Barack , is that you ?

a reply to: Hecate666

How about you show a bit of backbone and solidarity to your fellow Europeans that died at the hands of these monsters instead of trying to get worried about hurting the perpetrators. I am actually offended by your post.

Good for you! Emotionalize the subject and follow the delusional fake-solution we've got until they're all dead. Let's just forget that most terror-organisations are actual CIA Operations like in the good old times in Afghanistan. Nope, we just need more madness to fuel all the hate in order to make more profits with all those various layers of security involved, it's a great opportunity for business after all!

Yeah. Do that you fricken sheeple and don't ponder about things like adequacy of actions in order to achieve a permanent and peacefull solution, otherwise somebody might be offended.

Greetings from Germany as well! Just to let you know, I'm actually offended that you had the chuzpe to compare ISIS with the Nazis. Great job in selling the Nazis smaller as they were and ISIS bigger than they are. Well. Played!

a reply to: skywatcher44
You forgot to list the deaths from healthcare providers here in America. It is about 210,000 to 440,000 deaths per year.
Report on Medical Deaths in America

It's not just about deaths, it's about motives and the danger it represents