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Can your own soul cause you to go up in smoke?

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posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 05:57 PM
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The soul has energy, well can that energy fluctuate badly enough it could cause a person to blow up/turn to ash? I don't know..I just randomly thought about this. I recently read an article about the soul being some kind of quantum energy that resides in the nervous system but how would this quantum energy cause a body to incinerate? Could a soul (likely quantum energy) affect the physical world or kill a person?
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posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: 1MisterLeonard1

Any chance you could cite or share that article with us?

I'd like to take a gander


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posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: 1MisterLeonard1

Well no, i think and believe a soul is an angel who fell down from Kingdom of Heaven, when you die it returns to the kingdom of heaven and takes a new place in a another vessel.. The soul is in my opinion in the fourth dimension.. I also believe the soul is within our nervous system and synapses, even forms our thinking and behavoir..

I think its a invisible force we cant explain..



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 06:02 PM
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It could explain spontaneous combustion, but that phenomenon is rarely documented anymore. Maybe we have all become without souls?



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 06:03 PM
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posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: AmericanRealist
It could explain spontaneous combustion, but that phenomenon is rarely documented anymore. Maybe we have all become without souls?


Perhaps so, but if a soul is related to quantum energy, how could it feasibly lead to SC? I was under the impression quantum energy was a very small thing but I could be mistaken, I know zilch about quantum physics.



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 06:26 PM
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This probably doesn't help much...

But once I went to see this intense medium/ psychic dude. No charge, just bumped into him and we chatted up. He wanted to do a reading on me.

One of the things I remember him saying was that sometimes the vibration of the soul is not compatible with the physical body, and this can cause various forms of illness. Not sure about the turning to ash part but..

I have also read this idea in various places, about soul/ body incompatibility in terms of vibration. I'd be interested in hearing from others--will keep an eye on this thread.




posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 06:33 PM
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All I can theorize, is that since all Magic eventually becomes technology through science, that perhaps there is a tool or weapon that can be directed which causes the soul to have this effect upon extraction?? Im just going with your initial assessment that it could cause a person to turn to ash or blow up, which sounds exactly like SC. I can only theorize that a tool or weapon may be responsible.



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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From my point of view.

Every particle around you is energy manifested on a quantum probability field.

I think of the soul more like a information matrix that can be accessed thru the unconscious that can change over time but slower than the conscious mind.

But I do agree with the right information reprogramming the body, body awareness and mind awareness can change. Energetic body awareness, low level telepathy, awareness of synchronicity, even some energetic control over how the body vibrates and heat and cold manifests. Reiki is a perfect example of a energy body control tool that pushes energy thru the body to the hands.

I would say possible if you where able have the energetic body control to push enough heat energy thru the body in a short time before you get uneasy by how uncomfortable the body feels at high level vibrations and aborts.

But I think it is improbable that most souls here will be able to achieve that level of energy control. If I am wrong then we might see some really powerful manifestors on this level. It would be interesting to see on what level they can get the placebo effect in another body to work.



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 06:38 PM
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originally posted by: AmericanRealist
a reply to: 1MisterLeonard1

All I can theorize, is that since all Magic eventually becomes technology through science, that perhaps there is a tool or weapon that can be directed which causes the soul to have this effect upon extraction?? Im just going with your initial assessment that it could cause a person to turn to ash or blow up, which sounds exactly like SC. I can only theorize that a tool or weapon may be responsible.


Good theory, though when you refer to technology, this doesn't take into account cases from centuries ago, unless you were referring to something else? Sorry...it's 12:30 AM here..haha. Anyhow, the case rate for SC appears fairly consistent through time, though, since looking up recent cases I found about four or so instances in the past six years.

add: I found one case where a guy apparently was left alone for 15 minutes and was found burned to ash including his bone.. his name was Young Sen Kim or something similar to that.

Now I learned it takes two hours to burn a body completely at 1,200 C (a crematorium) and hydrogen burns at about 2,000 C. So to burn a body in 15 minutes must have taken a temperature of around 8,000 C which is hotter than any chemical fire..
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posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 06:49 PM
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well who is to say the traveling entities which our ancestors sometimes worshiped as Gods were not responsible?? They could have the technology to do it. Even a lightning strike doesn't always kill a person, let alone turn them to ash. Therefore I will have to rule out Zeus and Thor. Imagine a Directed Energy weapon on steroids. thats what I am thinking is responsible.



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 07:02 PM
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Now I learned it takes two hours to burn a body completely at 1,200 C (a crematorium) and hydrogen burns at about 2,000 C. So to burn a body in 15 minutes must have taken a temperature of around 8,000 C which is hotter than any chemical fire..


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I wonder if you can create fusion thru quantum field manipulation. Change the field and reality follows the field. But how you do it I do not know. If it is not instant then you have to make sure the energy is not spreading out to other mediums so the heat drops.
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posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: LittleByLittle
a reply to: 1MisterLeonard1



Now I learned it takes two hours to burn a body completely at 1,200 C (a crematorium) and hydrogen burns at about 2,000 C. So to burn a body in 15 minutes must have taken a temperature of around 8,000 C which is hotter than any chemical fire..


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I wonder if you can create fusion thru quantum field manipulation. Change the field and reality follows the field. But how you do it I do not know. If it is not instant then you have to make sure the energy is not spreading out to other mediums so the heat drops.


That'd make sense, given the intense but short-lived heat and the fact the main focus of the fire is sort of a sphere..with the extremities being left behind such as the hands and feet. There's no sign of struggle and the victims do not cry out for help.

(While I am aware of the ''wick effect'' theory and believe this fits with some SC cases, the wick effect apparently takes many hours to consume a body and it is the opposite of an intense fire such as the one described.)



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

Nice.. "ethereal"...

namaste



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: JimNasium

Still suck at philosophy



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: tikbalang

I got it so it must be coming through...



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 08:01 PM
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~considers what the melting point of a ghost is~



posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX
~considers what the melting point of a ghost is~





posted on Jul, 26 2016 @ 09:40 PM
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The case of Helen Conway is another example of fast burning. Her body was reduced to ashes in 20 minutes or less. [Warning! Gory photos!]
www.varietyportal.com...



posted on Jul, 27 2016 @ 05:14 AM
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a reply to: tikbalang

Nah man you're fine




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