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Sadly, I agree with your entire post. People with their eyes wide shut is the bugger
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: ssenerawa
The whole thing is rigged and you know it as well as the rest of us. The 'alternate' options you refer to are equally rigged...or at least most are.
None of us want to believe the one we support or choose as 'the lesser of two evils' is the one of the rigged/bait options.
None of us know for sure. Likely it's systemic as much or more so outright individual candidate-rigged. Although, IMO, Hillary is the most blatant of the potential group.
Nothing adds more confusion into the process as the other 'options' as you cite. If not you and I stress 'IF', then many have no other intention than reducing the chances either of one or the other main candidates.
Simply put, you option are no less suspect that the two main ones....and you know it.
Even an honest, sincere option is likely allowed the slot for no other reason than the draining of votes from the actual intended candidate. Tell me that isn't a realistic possibility.
To hell with the 'options'. One candidate makes money from politics and is likely completely bought and paid for. The other spends his own money-and therefore more likely to be altruistic- and his rhetoric is improving the lot and direction of the U.S. of A..
It's your call and choice....
originally posted by: thesungod
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Gary Johnson or Jill Stein... I'll let you pick and we can boost each other.
originally posted by: ksiezyc
a reply to: ssenerawa
No they aren't, but Trump's the best. Vote with your conscience if that let's you sleep at night. In the end it won't really matter.
originally posted by: thesungod
a reply to: MotherMayEye
No, I have not planned to vote Trump or Hillary.
You won't be taking one away with me.
Well said and I couldn't agree more. But the Internet and/or media corporations have a lot and I mean a lot lot lot alot of lot to do with how the how Americans think and/or react.
originally posted by: anotheramethyst
a reply to: ssenerawa
Decades of voting for the lesser of 2 evils is exactly what got us here in this septic race to the bottom. Does anyone here really think that Hillary or trump is any better than the other?
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: thesungod
a reply to: MotherMayEye
No, I have not planned to vote Trump or Hillary.
You won't be taking one away with me.
Would love to see an organized effort to appeal to apathetic, disenfranchised voters and entice them to vote third party.
The time is ripe for that.
Exactly
originally posted by: sarra1833
a reply to: MotherMayEye
Heck yes! Jill Stein, please.
NO vote is a wasted vote as long as one votes their ideals and values with the candidate who holds their values and ideals. What IS a waste is holding values all election season and then rolling belly side up and doing what tptb want - every single time- and going "lesser of two evils".
There are loads more running than just two, and people always insta forget that.
Definition of Insanity, people.
Break the mold.
There are more than two.
The top two ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS have a lesser of two evils aspect.
And like trained monkeys, everyone always rolls over despite their hating of a candidate and votes them in.... With a huge "but" and a sigh....
You tired of being used?
Tired of the same insanity dance?
If you have ideals
And they lie with anyone but the lesser of top two
And if you ain't evil
Then why keep voting the devil in?
Break the cycle.
End the bs.
Stop playing the govts game.
originally posted by: CynConcepts
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: thesungod
a reply to: MotherMayEye
No, I have not planned to vote Trump or Hillary.
You won't be taking one away with me.
Would love to see an organized effort to appeal to apathetic, disenfranchised voters and entice them to vote third party.
The time is ripe for that.
To offset the idea that a vote for Stein is a vote for Trump and a vote for Johnson is a vote for Clinton. How about you vote for Stein and I will vote for Johnson? We equalize our votes for both third parties and at the same time nullify a vote for the 2 established parties!
Is anyone else apathetic about the election? Are you voting against ‘the other party/candidate’ more than you are voting FOR a candidate? Are you disgusted with the two party system but afraid your vote won’t be meaningful if you cast it for a third party candidate?
Please let me double the weight of your vote!
If you plan on voting for Hillary or Trump, but answered yes to any of the above, I will gladly pledge to vote for the third party candidate OF YOUR CHOOSING, if you vote for them, also.
I am serious. I will double the weight of your third party vote, I will vote for the third party candidate you choose, and consider it a very small sacrifice to end this lousy two-party system. Just 5% of the vote will give a third party ballot access and public funding.
It’s not unreasonable to think that ^^THIS^^ might be the very best outcome of this election that can be hoped for.
PM me if you are interested!