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Another win for Russia in the geopolitical chess game
Reason they did not shoot down Erdogans planes were because Erdogans planes were being Escorted by 7 Russian fighter Jets
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: maddy21
It isn't the US is tired of Turkey, more like Turkey is tired of the West. US and EU need Turkey to remain part of NATO to justify using their country as a forward base to "Regime Change" Syria. Why would the US shoot itself the foot by fostering a coup and destabilizing Turkey?
Any division between US and Turkey benefits Russia, not the West.
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: maddy21
If anything Russia is trying their hardest to keep Turkey from joining the EU, and also fan the flames of Turkey being isolated/kicked from NATO.
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: maddy21
If it were a true coup, his plane would have been shot down.
originally posted by: Vector99
Also, do you have a source for the wild and completely BS thought that 7 Russian jets would be escorting Erdogan?
Russia would like nothing more than Turkey to join EU, EU will burn itself to the ground from the flood of immigrants.
lol, you think this was a manufactured coup ? It was a real coup, and if they wanted to fire at Erdogan they would have fired and killed him. What makes you think the coup is not real ?
originally posted by: Shamrock6
Let me make that even more clear: guys who were willing to try and overthrow their government by violent means then decided to change their minds after they crossed the Rubicon and instead just flew around doing nothing.
Seems legit.
I've seen reports like this but not this one. After the coup attempt Erdogan stated he owed his life to Russia.
As the coup attempt was unfolding, the whole thing started to appear very bizarre in a phony sort of way to me, as if it was a false flag, and I began to think Erdogan had staged it to purge his ranks. I wrote about this in another thread the night of the coup. I found out other people were thinking the same thing.
I've a very benevolent view of Putin because I've been observing what he says and does for a long time.
Even Erdogan confirms that the F-16 pilots were part of the coup plot, and Turkey in another thread had openly blamed CIA and the United States for backing the coup attempt. Looks like these version of events are more plausible.
“Turkey and the US have had friendly, amicable relations, allies and strategic partners for a very long time, and we do not believe that they are going to stand by the leader of this terrorist organisation,” Yildirim said.
“Of course, since the leader of this terrorist organisation is residing in the United States there are question marks in the minds of the people whether there is any US involvement or backing,” he said in an interview with the Guardian, taking care to note that Washington was not involved in the coup attempt. “So America from this point on should really think how they will continue to cooperate with Turkey, which is a strategic ally for them in the region and world.”
Please don't change my words. I stated I've a very benevolent view of Putin because I've been observing what he says and does for a long time.
I've been observing what he says and does for a long time.
I don't recall at what website I saw the words stated by Erdogan that Russia saved his life but I will spend some time later looking around. The statement stuck in my mind but not the website.
The spokesman for the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, said he had no information about Russian intelligence's involvement in warning Erdogan about the attempt.
Almost at the same time as the reports of Russia's involvement in the victory of Erdogan emerged, the Turkish president himself offered a different version in an interview with the Qatari TV channel Al Jazeera. According to Erdogan, he was first told about the preparations for the coup by his brother-in-law. At first he did not believe this information, but decided to take action after a conversation with the head of the MIT. Together with his family, he left Marmaris on a helicopter and headed to Istanbul.