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originally posted by: korath
It all comes down to the oil. If the ME didn't have any, none of this stuff would be happening and nobody would give a rats ass about what goes on over there.
Thats why they call it a fake war. The war on isis is really the war on assad...
originally posted by: paraphi
Um, Russia have killed 28,000 terrorists. Methinks Russia is falling in to the trap of over-estimating, just like Vietnam. I wonder how many real terrorists have actually been killed, and how many innocent civilians have been killed.
Russia's modus operandi is not refined. Protected by the control of the press, Russia have been flattening villages, towns and cities. Dumb bombs, cluster munitions, white phosphorous, brute force and secrecy are ensuring Russian actions are unquestioned. Look to Grozny as an example of Russian methods. Look at reports coming out of Aleppo where civilians and humanitarian workers are being targeted.
Russian efforts are questionable at best.
A long time ago, when military was about honour and code, rather than big business, we ended our targets. We didn't dance around or play games of profit, we simply killed the f'ing terrorists
originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
It depends who's drone strike it is, people seem to love blaming the US federal government but fall short on words when talking about US soldiers or air force.
A long time ago, when military was about honour and code, rather than big business, we ended our targets. We didn't dance around or play games of profit, we simply killed the f'ing terrorists
The US existed in times of chivalry? Get away
We Brits called a lot of your actions terrorism in the early days because quite frankly they were seen as unsporting at the time. Business, politics and war have intermingled for a long time and just like officialdom robbed the Native American of his land, human rights and the Geneva convention is robbing you of seeing another country lain to waste (more than it is).
But hey drink that cool refreshing drink and remember, you know the truth about big brother and he ain't out there beating up bullies
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: hounddoghowlie
the U.S. equipment that isis has was captured when the iraqi's turned tail and ran from them.
Thanks we know the official story. That materiel wasn't abandoned, it was delivered.
Just like this caravan of trucks crossing the Iraq border into Syria...Edit: They're all white so US Air knows who not to bomb.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: hounddoghowlie
also where are the isis flags.
Its not a parade for the camera, its a convoy of armedwhite pickups heading Syria.
that looks to be a MI-24, to big to be a apache.
Are you suggesting the Russians are behind ISIS?
Lol
originally posted by: Tardacus
i seem to remember that the U.S didn`t start bombing oil facilities until after russia did,so i have to wonder what the U.S. was bombing for those 2 years before the russians joined in. an oil facility is a huge target easy to spot,easy to hit,same goes for conveys of oil trucks heading to the turkish border, easy to spot,easy to hit,so the U.S. can`t use the excuse that "we didn`t see them"
Now, however, everything seems to be fair game except those points where the oil reaches the surface and the makeshift refineries, which are run by civilians. The U.S. is still keen to avoid an environmental disaster; it is also carefully avoiding civilian casualties, which means the refineries—really just boilers run by locals—are off-limits. In recent weeks, the coalition has started hitting oil truck loading platforms at fields. It’s also targeting oil and gas separation plants for the first time, having destroyed 13 plants so far this month. Heavy machinery that might be used to repair facilities is also being hit. On November 4, strikes destroyed multiple cranes, rigs, excavators, pipefitters, and a front-end loader in Syria. The one crucial change to these rules of engagement is that middlemen are now potential targets. Before Operation Tidal Wave II, middlemen were safe, but on November 16 U.S. warplanes destroyed 116 queued tanker trucks in ISIS territory. The Pentagon is confident that these truckers are not true believers or ISIS fanboys. That’s why warning leaflets were dropped along the route about an hour before strikes were launched.
originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: awareness10
It's odd that Russia is believed first. If course we have been attacking ISIS. Their strongholds being bombed resulted in smaller and more far flung attacks. '
I believe it has been described over and over how it is not impossible to steal a truck and ship it.
Because 'Russia' didn't create Isis. John McCain comes to mind... and so do a few others...
Putin is standing up to Obama and no longer amused by his childish games. Putin is Da'Man!
SYRIA: ‘CIVILIAN OBJECTS WERE NOT DAMAGED’: RUSSIA’S STATEMENTS ON ITS ATTACKS IN SYRIA UNMASKED
How do you know that the footage is from Iraq/Syria? Also note the claim that the helicopter is a "US Apache"? Do you also believe that too? That is NO AH-64 Apache! The footage is poor but the shape shows a Hind (Mi-24/25).
originally posted by: tommyjo
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: hounddoghowlie
also where are the isis flags.
Its not a parade for the camera, its a convoy of armedwhite pickups heading Syria.
that looks to be a MI-24, to big to be a apache.
Are you suggesting the Russians are behind ISIS?
Lol
No it means that the footage is not what you think it to be. You automatically accepted that the footage was showing ISIS assets. The question is why? Did you also just accept the video title? "United States Apache attack helicopter following behind ISIS convoy into Syria from Iraq" So now you know that the footage doesn't show a US Apache but a Mi-24 Hind then what does that suggest?
Have you ever considered that the footage showed for example an Iraqi Army or Iraqi Milita convoy being protected by an Iraqi Hind? How about footage from Libya or Sudan?
Every single promise broken or made with no intention of ever keeping, being caught red handed with Fast and furious, and a sordid laundry list of lies and cheats as to surprise even his most staunch supporters.