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posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

I am truly not sure I can post Merry Christmas
on farce book, or twitter without being censored.

I am not sure I could post a pro Israel picture
on Twitter without being censored.

But I am 100% certain that there are illegal workers
using social security numbers of dead people...and
they are working in America and the IRS takes the
tax money and never refunds it to the dead person,
but the IRS has time to pursue blocking registrants
of conservative non profit orgs.




posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

I am truly not sure I can post Merry Christmas
on farce book, or twitter without being censored.

I am not sure I could post a pro Israel picture
on Twitter without being censored.


I'm 100% sure you can do both of those things without being censored.


But I am 100% certain that there are illegal workers
using social security numbers of dead people...and
they are working in America and the IRS takes the
tax money and never refunds it to the dead person,
but the IRS has time to pursue blocking registrants
of conservative non profit orgs.


I'm not sure what this has to do with those other things or anything I was asking. I'm aware of what some illegal immigrants are doing to cheat the IRS. As for Conservative Non-Profits I have no idea what you're talking about there.






posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Just last year 3 illegals were pointed out and gone in my place of work I was happy but i got to know one of em a bit.. strange story, good bye you eat my taxes time and show me how my government sucks.. goodbye.. now for the rest of em.. i pay high taxes for what again?



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

My comment was toward the illegal immigrant
issue....

The U.S. claims it is a nation of laws...
then we should be a nation of laws. If a person is
here in America working illegally, without a
legal right or permission to be here... usually they
are pretty easy to find. And they should be found,
and escorted out.

"Authorities" know they are here, and where they are,
but priorities lie elsewhere for them.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
The U.S. claims it is a nation of laws...
then we should be a nation of laws.



LOL. Yeah. The U.S. makes a lot of claims like that which aren't exactly true. It sounds better as a slogan or talking point than saying "The U.S. has different sets of laws depending on how much money you have."

If the U.S. was a nation of Laws then they wouldn't have so many criminals in charge of everything.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:03 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

But this one issue, just heard by The Supreme Court is a big one.

And the SCOTUS Ruled against Barack. Illegal immigrants
cant be shielded from deportation so they ruled.

So then what now?



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

I haven't heard about the SCOTUS thing.

They might be allowed to deport them but they don't always do it.

At this point there are so many illegal immigrants and they've become such a large part of how things are done that getting rid of all of them now wouldn't be simple either.

Where I live in Cali. is super big in Ag. and illegals are a major part of the work force. So that's one major economic area that would have to be figured out for one. They are also a big part of the construction business too as labor. But even if you figured out how to compensate for that loss of cheap labor without skyrocketing food prices and housing prices then there is the issue of actually physically deporting them.

That's the major one. Just how easy do you think it is to find and relocate millions of people that are undocumented and spread all over the country??? You would need a huge internal police force and major resources to accomplish that and it wouldn't be easy.

Then you'd also have to figure out what to do with the backlash and social issues of splitting up families where some are legal and others aren't. That would cause some serious social problems and things like that.

I'm not saying it couldn't be done. It probably could be done, but it wouldn't be easy and it would cause major problems in various areas from social to economic. The reality of actually doing it would be much more difficult than I think most people realize.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:22 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
I haven't heard about the SCOTUS thing.

It was a 4/4 split, meaning the lower court's ruling gets to stand.

I pretty much heard 0bama say that he wasn't going to accelerate enforcement from where it stands right now. Which means he's gonna let the law go unenforced.

Which is impeachable.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
Where I live in Cali. is super big in Ag. and illegals are a major part of the work force. So that's one major economic area that would have to be figured out for one.

I wonder what would happen if ...

1. All the illegals got kicked out.
2. Welfare got turned off.

I bet them veggies would get picked right on time.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: burntheships

I haven't heard about the SCOTUS thing.



Supreme Court Rules Against Obama's Plan To Shield Illegals From Deportation


Supreme Court announced on Thursday that it had deadlocked in a case challenging President Obama’s immigration plan, effectively ending what Mr. Obama had hoped would become one of his central legacies. The program would have shielded as many as five million undocumented immigrants from deportation and allowed them to legally work in the United States.

The 4-4 tie, which left in place an appeals court ruling blocking the plan, amplified the contentious election-year debate over the nation’s immigration policy and presidential power. www.nytimes.com...


So the SCOTUS ruled against Obama's plan to shield illegal's from deportation.

Yes there is lots of "rhetoric" about why the law, that was just upheld
by the SCOTUS is "unfeasable". But it is still the law, and States and
Feds find a way to uphold the law when it so suits them.




edit on 23-7-2016 by burntheships because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:28 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

The law hasn't been enforced for a while as far as I know. Not really anyway. Maybe once in a while but not really.

Also, I think it's a bit late in the game to worry about impeaching Obama, don't you??

I mean his run is basically done at this point. He's already in Lame Duck status and about to be gone. He'll be out before you even got the Impeachment process going.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:30 PM
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a reply to: Snarl

I'm sure they'd still get picked but you'd be paying a lot more for them than you do now.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:37 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I remember when Obama said similar things, boy did we get screwed on that one. I thought "maybe people will learn their lesson next time".

Nope, we are falling for the same tricks again.




Trump isn't a manufactured president like Obama was though. People already didn't learn that lesson with Obama 2 times, so if they do get burned by Trump it should be completely painless.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:38 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
Also, I think it's a bit late in the game to worry about impeaching Obama, don't you??

Yeah, but, I think he could have been gotten rid of a long time ago. Not in TPTB's plans then ... probably not part of them now.

They're probably too busy trying to figure out what to do about ♫ ♬ Trump-Dee-Dump-Dump ♬ ♫



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
What a loud of bollocks.

It's Coke vs Pepsi and I'd rather vote for Natural Spring Water!


Coke owns natural spring water



posted on Jul, 24 2016 @ 12:05 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Snarl

I'm sure they'd still get picked but you'd be paying a lot ?
more for them than you do now.


Which would help those who want to earn that minimum wage of 15 an hour right?

You have to wonder though, that would amount to a decrease in tax
dollar retention for the State, and the Feds...because all of those
dead people working would dissapear, and all of the sudden legal
workers would be filing tax returns.

Maybe the truth of the matter is far more than a few extra pennies
for a bag of spinach.



posted on Jul, 24 2016 @ 12:12 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I never said they didn't, but I see that instead of deflecting to Hilary you are deflecting to the entire Democratic party which isn't AS common but still pretty common. So good job there.



posted on Jul, 24 2016 @ 12:44 AM
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a reply to: burntheships

They aren't making $15 dollars and hour though. Many of them aren't making minimum wage either. Most of them don't have dead people's Social Security Cards either. They work cash and are basically transported around in vans from place to place. Sometimes they are even charged some of their pay for their food and lodging as well making their income fairly small. But they don't have many options and take what they can get. The field jobs are probably some of the hardest jobs that illegals work. They also come in groups too, because there will be like one in a group of 5 that can speak English so he's the one who does all the talking and negotiating for pay while the others just work. Stuff like that.

As for welfare and stuff like that I'd say it's not the illegals that are the problem as much as the people here already that just don't work and leach from the gov. To get aid you usually have to have some kind of documentation or something which illegals don't have. They mostly work under the table for cash only.

But the point I'm getting at is that they are ingrained into our society in many ways and as time has passed there are generations of families of both illegal and legal now all mixed together. It's like walking through a patch of stickers that get in your socks. If you start pulling them out right away it's not too much trouble. But if you wait they'll get twisted in there deeper and more and more of them too until you'll never get them out. You can remove some surface ones but there will always be some stickers in those socks from then on which you either deal with or throw the socks away.

I probably shouldn't compare them to stickers in socks but it works for this analogy.



posted on Jul, 24 2016 @ 02:50 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
It doesn't matter what is said or brought up about him, his supporters will ignore it and deflect to Hilary 100% of the time.


I wonder if a liberal/democrat ever did such a thing? Naaaah!



Political bias affects brain activity, study finds
During the run-up to the 2004 presidential election, while undergoing an fMRI bran scan, 30 men--half self-described as "strong" Republicans and half as "strong" Democrats--were tasked with assessing statements by both George W. Bush and John Kerry in which the candidates clearly contradicted themselves. Not surprisingly, in their assessments Republican subjects were as critical of Kerry as Democratic subjects were of Bush, yet both let their own candidate off the hook.

The neuroimaging results, however, revealed that the part of the brain most associated with reasoning--the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex--was quiescent. Most active were the orbital frontal cortex, which is involved in the processing of emotions; the anterior cingulate, which is associated with conflict resolution; the posterior cingulate, which is concerned with making judgments about moral accountability; and--once subjects had arrived at a conclusion that made them emotionally comfortable--the ventral striatum, which is related to reward and pleasure.


Anybody / EVERYBODY committed to a mass scale social group, especially one such as a political party with clear and present "leaders", takes on the group think mentality where they will lie to themselves a million times to support attacks on the group / its membership / its ideals... and when they lie to themselves their brains pleasure / reward centers lite up.

FACT: Humans get high on self-deception (especially when it comes to mass group dynamics).

This, that study, is why I invented "Socio Agnosticism". It was the only way to be as sure as possible that I wouldn't live that way too, as best as a human ever could.



originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I never said they didn't, but I see that instead of deflecting to Hilary you are deflecting to the entire Democratic party which isn't AS common but still pretty common. So good job there.


HUH??

What i spelled out was that everybody committed to these mass scale social groups are inherently addicted to self deception. In other words, everybody in such groups (Republicans AND Democrats) are just as "insane" as the "other".

It's scientific fact.

I didn't try to discount the premise of your perceived tactic, I just pointed out that everyone is nuts (including you). That's all.
edit on 24-7-2016 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2016 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

They don't own my well.



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