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Politics... and KARMA. Think please.

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posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 06:44 AM
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First off 1 thinks a global effort is the best answer, under UN directions and guidance not responsibility of one nation...

Question-
If a leader is chosen by some people that is prepared to instigate aggression abroad, is it ok or a Karma related for the people who chose to then send their offspring and or family members to initiate said instigations? For who has to go FIGHT? THE VOTERS OFFSPRING OR FAMILY Usually...

Basically sending many to fight AGAIN?

If the UN is in charge of said activities and occupations then maybe there exist a chance to solve the problems...

But if the SAME nation goes back or takes primary aggressive lead AGAIN, BASICALLY ON THEIR OWN, DOESN'T THAT SET SAID NATION BACK AGAIN? Not ahead? And build more hate for future generations?
Due to funding required to fight/support said activities and potential Sacrifices of Soldiers and innocent. Therefore Generating MORE HATE?

Also its not wise to talk the talk without even seeing the distance of the walk ahead.

So ATS what do think? Is it better to have a tuff rhetoric leader who sends many to fight for them or have someone lead who may have better political understanding of the worlds affairs and so can organize a global efforts to solve global issues affecting many...

I'm asking to help resonate - send program into minds to think, because it seems those instigated may get desperate and so respond desperately
In ways the many who are about to choose may not fathom... (grm or nuq) then what?
Settings us all back, sort of like wmd wmd wmd sent many abroad who DIDN'T MAKE IT BACK nor fixed but seemed to of caused more harm & hate.
Doesn't look better
from this perspective maybe gets worst like ENRON days?

Wishes humanity good luck in decisions made in future.
Intelligent input welcome to help programming... Please avoid emotional responses.

NAMASTE*******
LOVE LIGHT ETERNIA




posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 06:58 AM
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Reading...
Data transmitting.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 07:12 AM
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At the end of the day, everyone who played a part in the un-natural death of an innocent person will go to hell and receive what they gave to others.

Arm dealers, weapons manufacturers, soldiers, terrorists, hawk politicians, mad scientists and supporters of unjustified wars will all suffer for eternity for the pain they have caused others.

USA has been getting lots of Karma chickens coming home to roost from Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. This is why USA is in so much crap right now.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 07:18 AM
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"Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

I think it would be setting up the world for a Monarchy...

Sounds a bit like Revelations and Antichrist



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

"So ATS what do think? Is it better to have a tuff rhetoric leader who sends many to fight for them or have someone lead who may have better political understanding of the worlds affairs and so can organize a global efforts to solve global issues affecting many"???

It's better to have someone lead who can both "project" power, without needing to "use" or "engage" that power in the projection thereof. (Teddy Roosevelt-walk softly and carry a big stick). And hopefully that leader woulld be one who has superior knowledge of world affairs and who can organize global efforts by way of multi-national coalitions to solve global issues.

Problem is that with only a very few exceptions, the US typically doesn't produce leadership of this high quality.

So, here's my question. How does Karma affect the person such as myself, who can't bring themselves to vote for either candidate on moral grounds? How does Karma treat............the drop out?



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: Rapha
1 cannot confirm Rapha FOR FATHER SEES inside the humanoid into the SOULS and so knows who truly has been manipulated & who actually enjoys the ignorance's...


DUALISM aside the laws of attraction may be real for souls throughout Existence.

1 does understand your points made however...



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 07:47 AM
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originally posted by: Plotus

Sounds a bit like Revelations and Antichrist

Interesting perceptions detected. Which then frees more soul energy for? re-capture to rinz & repeat cycle faster. Why also opening a large soul or paranormal gates simultaneously...
These non human energies are not racist, and so use who they can when they can to coordinate activities. HERE...
1 is not downing potential picks (so relieve emotions). Logically however the outcomes seems relevant...
Georgia Guide Stones still seems to carry depopulate data. Which requires wars and weak attacks in masses to initiates said depop. Standards



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13


So ATS what do think? Is it better to have a tuff rhetoric leader who sends many to fight for them or have someone lead who may have better political understanding of the worlds affairs and so can organize a global efforts to solve global issues affecting many...


Obviously, it would be preferable IF we could ensure that the one UN leader has the best (or even better) "understanding" and could actually organize an effective reponse... but that's a mighty big IF. Even if he could, would he???

No one really knows what's in the mind and heart of others; and we have no reason to believe anyone in power actually WANTS to do the right thing for the greater good of all.

On the other hand, at least with many leaders -- as opposed to just one -- we can at least ensure that no one person has the power to screw everyone. There will be competing ideas, and pushback when/if others get out of line.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: TonyS
Thinking
You are... I like how your thinking





@It's better to have someone lead who can both "project" power, without needing to "use" or "engage" that power in the projection thereof. (Teddy Roosevelt-walk softly and carry a big stick). And hopefully that leader would be one who has superior knowledge of world affairs and who can organize global efforts by way of multi-national coalitions to solve global issues.


The dropouts maybe the actual leaders not following the rest. Of the GAMES? And so AN intelligent telepathic FATHER WOULD KNOW, that you Noticed the Glitches...



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 07:56 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea
Acknowledging

Thank you



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 07:58 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13
Beautifully put!

So perhaps, the Father will recognize the drop outs as those who are "in" this world, but not "of" it.
edit on 23-7-2016 by TonyS because: clarity



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: TonyS
Therefore eventually figures ways to assist THE directly.
Maybe even with Angelic supports.
Consider Humans are THEIR IMAGES? Some humanoid feel behaviors and ways of thinking are Unique to only Humanoid Creations (humanoids because observing & recognizing ETERNAL SOULS within humans/humanoid) even politics of sorts? Maybe intergalactic and or interdimensional politics, still politics.
Ex- decisions on what species should ADVANCE because they have shown maturity and which should be re-created? Or eliminated. Politics say flood them other side say SAVE THEM!
May sound odd but humans do it everyday with livestock and wild and sea life. Perhaps image data related to? Who made images of man...
And so 1 tries with various interweb outlets to increase perceptions. Because to not at least provide a glimpse of time hopping to future potential events is basically watching it all burn down knowingly. And so ask many to think?



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
First off 1 thinks a global effort is the best answer, under UN directions and guidance not responsibility of one nation...

Question-
If a leader is chosen by some people that is prepared to instigate aggression abroad, is it ok or a Karma related for the people who chose to then send their offspring and or family members to initiate said instigations? For who has to go FIGHT? THE VOTERS OFFSPRING OR FAMILY Usually...

Basically sending many to fight AGAIN?

If the UN is in charge of said activities and occupations then maybe there exist a chance to solve the problems...

But if the SAME nation goes back or takes primary aggressive lead AGAIN, BASICALLY ON THEIR OWN, DOESN'T THAT SET SAID NATION BACK AGAIN? Not ahead? And build more hate for future generations?
Due to funding required to fight/support said activities and potential Sacrifices of Soldiers and innocent. Therefore Generating MORE HATE?

Also its not wise to talk the talk without even seeing the distance of the walk ahead.

So ATS what do think? Is it better to have a tuff rhetoric leader who sends many to fight for them or have someone lead who may have better political understanding of the worlds affairs and so can organize a global efforts to solve global issues affecting many...

I'm asking to help resonate - send program into minds to think, because it seems those instigated may get desperate and so respond desperately
In ways the many who are about to choose may not fathom... (grm or nuq) then what?
Settings us all back, sort of like wmd wmd wmd sent many abroad who DIDN'T MAKE IT BACK nor fixed but seemed to of caused more harm & hate.
Doesn't look better
from this perspective maybe gets worst like ENRON days?

Wishes humanity good luck in decisions made in future.
Intelligent input welcome to help programming... Please avoid emotional responses.

NAMASTE*******
LOVE LIGHT ETERNIA

hahaha . Just had to laugh. I for one had rather die standing than living on my knees bowing to the UN (or any other of the POS groups)



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: TonyS

If a leader is not prepared to go full out war, annihilate the enemy to win and to cut our losses, what the heck are they doing? Chip,chip,chip away at our freedoms through fear, the long term plan. We ended a GLOBAL war in four years. None of them are qualified, that is why we should not be in the ME, at all.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 09:15 AM
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Reply to Rapha -

Then by extension, anyone who lives in any country who participates in war and takes advantage of the freedoms those countries provide, are a hypocrite and is going to burn in Hell, no matter the height of the horse they're riding. If those people have such a problem with it and feel they are fit to judge,, they need to move to a country that has never participated in any war.
edit on 23-7-2016 by DAVID64 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:31 AM
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Who controls the UN?

There has to be national powers, national sovereignity, and end to NWO. Like minded nations can form allegiances however they must not form allegiances with those who would bring harm to their freedom or equality or values.

Obama wants to leave his position after flooding the US with crime and violence, and changing the regime and even the stats on the populations, and head to the UN.

Why? Gee, I wonder!

I used to believe in a wonderful International World, supposing of course there would be a balance of power between Nations, Regions, and International Concerns, and that councils of citizens, watchdogs and with big teeth that can remove corrupt people and have them sued by their victims, so local power is always in the hands of people, but fans out, so that social services, food and housing, medical and dental, civilization and higher education, would exist for all people.

Where regimes that were abusing their people could be removed swiftly by world police action without harming the people by employing that top black op technologies and not using depleted uranium weapons or bombs.

However, ALAS, never realized this world was run by such evil fiends, and that whole nations were so programmed as to harm their own women and children, and to savagely attack others over ISMS and BELIEFS.

And so, NO, in a world with so much range between Higher and Lower, Good and Bad, you can't let the Wolves run it!
I don't want Saudi influenced nations, which seems to have infested the UN, running anything.

I don't want Obama anywhere but in prison for treason. AND THOSE WHO FUND HIS ABUSE, IE VATICAN POWERS AND UK BANKING POWERS AND SECRET SERVICES. In fact, them even more than him, because he may be a puppet. But there still has to be consequences for fulfilling that role for them.
edit on 23-7-2016 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: Unity_99
1 understands your compassion for the inhabitants of this world.
Thing is some nations are Leaders for smaller nations on this planet Unity_99, and decision made in those leading nations will affect the rest of the world.
So the Op basis is basically saying to the many who may have an ear, PLEASE THINK. Because if the wrong individuals gain management of leading nations as has happened pre Obama then future generations are left to attempt to clean up after past failed managements...
Another reason to have UN primarily influencing the over all global responses to the ignorance abroad instead of one leading nation taking the bulk of the blame.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: MOMof3

I entirely agree we shouldn't be in the ME at all. The truth be told the US political class fails the "talent" test necessary to be engaged in foreign conflicts.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
Then by extension, anyone who lives in any country who participates in war and takes advantage of the freedoms those countries provide, are a hypocrite and is going to burn in Hell, no matter the height of the horse they're riding. If those people have such a problem with it and feel they are fit to judge,, they need to move to a country that has never participated in any war.

Yep. And they cannot handle the fact that all the crap they gave other countries for a monthly paycheck is about to come flying back into their faces soon.

Its called Payback for Crimes Against Humanity where the innocent victims that died on the receiving end of their sword will judge them.

Very few people that dished out the crap against the innocent, seem to be able to handle this fact.

The new world swordsman now dish out death by wiping out entire innocent families with drones and then laugh at how many mosquitoes they have splattered that day in the military pub with a cool beer.




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