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How Many People Were Shot by Open Carriers at the RNC?

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posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: VictorVonDoom

He'd miss the sarcasm, and state troopers would come knocking...

Sacrifice freedom for security? I seem to recall Ben Franklin has an opinion on that.




posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: syrinx high priest

That depend largely upon the where, doesn't it? Not all shootings/would be shootings happen in downtown Dallas. Sometimes they happen at my front door...

I, personally, a few years back stopped a violent act with my handgun. Didn't, thank God, even have to shoot. Showed the would be burglar that I was armed, and he left. He had a sledgehammer for the door, and quite possibly for who ever might be home...

That probably happens far more often than is reported.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

So the purpose of open carry would be to.... ?

Well, certainly not defense since the police do not have the authority to authorize citizens to actively engage in what is essentially vigilantism.

Which basically equates open carry to steampunk chic accessory and braggadocio.

In the end, it still falls to law enforcement to maintain the peace.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: maria_stardust

It is a psychological weapon against a liberal mindset.
A silent protest as it were.
WE think carrying picket signs are humorous.
Personally I carry a knife.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Oh, please spare me the partisan tripe.

I'm a moderate left of center, and not only do I pack heat -- I'm a relatively decent shot. So your argument is leaker than a sieve during a flood.

Yes, there are a handful of states that have the right to open carry. Just don't deceive yourself that visibly toting your weapon will act as a magical safety blanket when some lunatic decides to go on a shooting spree. Especially, if you're waiting on the "OK" from law enforcement to allow citizens to engage in the free for all chaos that follows.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: maria_stardust

Partisan my ass.
I'm not arguing. I'm answering,you may NOT be aware of the mindset that creates such IDEAS,but when the explanation is told to you ,plugging your own ears and going "LA,LA,LA" won't alter an damn thing
THINKING of the IDEA of waiting for police permission is asinine.It shows a lack of knowledge about civilian gunfights where and why.
IT's COMMON sense.
It sure as hell kept BLM heads down effectively enough, NOTHING happened.
BULLYING ...yes a type, if the observer is sufficiently Hoplophobic or misinformed.
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posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Me, not listening? That's hardly the case.

I'm not arguing against anyone's right to bear arms or open carry where it's allowed. All I'm saying is that open carry doesn't automatically enable a magical force field of protection which will prevent all within its shield from harm.

Now that is a dangerous mindset.

That has nothing to do with partisan politics and everything to do with accepting harsh reality at face value.
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posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: maria_stardust

It IS, we shouldn't have to argue about them at all.
It's a bit TOO confrontational for me,BUT the pendum politically has swung so far LEFT the last 8 years ALL I can say is,BRACE yourself.
Besides I DON'T give warnings of ANY KIND if I have to become nasty, age and treachery.
It's CERTAINLY NOT,how I was brought up.
I HATE bullies.
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posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Let's try this from a different angle.

An armed populace is a safer populace, not necessarily a safe one.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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About the only real stupidity during the RNC convention was golden showers.

I wonder if the protestors of the DNC convention can follow that tough act.

I can't wait to find out.

I am one that thought the SNIP was going to hit the fan at the RNC.

So glad it didn't.

Never underestimate the intelligence of the mob.

Better to be wrong, and than right in these kind of cases.
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posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: maria_stardust

It never could be.
Human nature dictates that.
An endless game of force /counterforce,now that so many firearms are everywhere.
If you weaken the good guys there's bad guys waiting to step in.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Nor would I ever suggest that we disarm, as that would equate to unequivocal stupidity on such a massive scale that there aren't enough face palms in the world to express it properly.

I just don't believe that open carry is the panacea as many enthusiasts would like it to be portrayed. That's just an illusion.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: maria_stardust

IT IS to those who fear them.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 01:16 PM
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Everyone with half a working brain knows that Republicans don't have gun problems.

The segment of the population that has gun violence problems is Democrats and Democrat supporters.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: maria_stardust
a reply to: projectvxn

... in the Dallas tragedy, what good did toting weapons in the open achieve? In the end, Open Carry was not a deterrent.

For that matter, what good did the police with weapons deter?

The 'shooter' had intent to purpose and nothing was going to deter him.

Are you seeing the fallacy in your logic yet?


I guess things like lightning rods aren't needed anywhere because every now and then the lightning doesn't care about the rod and strikes the structure despite the rod.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: maria_stardust
a reply to: yuppa

Yes, that works well in theory and in real life for those with enough training to think and act in a hostile active shooter situation.

As I mentioned earlier, that doesn't work so well for the average Joe who only practices on the ocassional weekend at their local gun range or who considers picking cans off a log in the woods the epitome of readiness.

Huge difference.


Instinct usually has you obeying the First part of my list. SO no needed training there. And beside IF they would had shot as well th e cops would had not been able to tell who was who and would had shot everyone with a gun instead to be sure.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 03:12 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
Not a single gun related injury was reported, of course.

A few communists burned themselves during a pathetic attempt to burn the American flag though.

Not sure if they were charged with public endangerment or burning without a permit but they should have been.

The promised BLM protests never panned out.

These are the same pathetic losers Shaun King and BLM threatened will attempt a coup when Trump takes office.

I hope they follow through on their pathetic armed coup attempt. I really do.

But I am not holding my breath.
Burning the flag has nothing to do with communism it is a legitimate form of protest and it is also free speech. Also Shawn King did not call for a coup he predicted there would be one. Are there any more lies or ignorance you want to spead?


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