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The ground in Siberia is turning into a trampoline and we should all be worried ?

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posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 09:46 PM
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During the Permian extinction event around 250 million years ago it is said the volcanic activity started the process and warmed the earth around 5 degrees. But what happened next was the icing on the cake for 95% of all species to become extinct. The 5 degree warming released massive amounts of Methane which also warmed the earth another 5 degrees and it was just about curtains for life on planet earth. The oxygen content of the atmosphere and the oceans dropped precipitously along with all the heat... See link for full article and videos.


The ground in Siberia has been behaving strangely for a while now.

Remember those insanely giant craters that opened up out of nowhere? And how recently one of them exploded so violently that you could hear it from 60 miles away?

You can add this to the list of strange things that the ground really shouldn't do.



When permafrost thaws into soft soil, the liquid methane trapped underneath is released as a gas. This seems to be the case here: The research team who discovered the 15 or so patches of wobbly ground told the Siberian Times that methane and carbon dioxide emanated from the patch when they pierced it.

www.businessinsider.com...

For those who are interested in the Permian event skip to the six minute mark in the following video for what the whole domino event led to. youtu.be...


Longer video about the Permian which talks about the Siberian Trap and the flood Basalt that erupted enough lava to cover the entire USA up to one mile in depth.. Best hope that stuff does not ever happen again ! If the Lava or ash does not kill then the sulfuric acid will get most living creatures due to the effects it has on the climate and everything else. The Siberian trap erupted for around 1/2 a million years !
youtu.be...

edit on 727stk16 by 727Sky because: ...




posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 09:55 PM
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People want to bring more combustible gases on to Earth. Life isn't a video game. We don't need Jupiter or Venus gas on Earth. The should be used in space only.

www.quora.com...
edit on 21-7-2016 by makemap because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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I wonder if there could be a way to vent it.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 10:23 PM
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The solution is to plant more trees and plants, thats what allowed the planet to naturally recover over a very long period of time... of course modern industry in cutting out huge swaths of forestry has been a steady undoing of that vital process that the planet went through that allowed rise to the mammal species.

Such things that trees and plants produce are vital to our continued survival as they produce a pretty nice blanket of protection in the atmosphere that cools as well as providing a bio energy that strengthens the earths magnetic field.

So our rise in industrial revolution is of course going to be our downfall unless we replace what was lost and move into sustainability.

Environment used to be a hurdle to industry, for our development as an extreme so now we've found ourselves at the other extreme of industry being being a hurdle to the environment. So naturally sustainable systems to create and foster balance is going to be the much needed solution for our species to continue in development by sustainable pathways forward... remaining perched on the non renewable resources has and will only continue to be cause for disaster.

Of course there is hope that humanity isn't so lost as to see the need for such balance, if we are to progress onward and continue on in focus on advancement towards common causes and not those of common divergences.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Can we use all that extra methane as an alternative fuel source?

It could be a huge win!



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:06 PM
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Thanks for the thread OP. Sadly, I've been barking up this tree for nearly four years on ATS and there are just too many folks who refuse to acknowledge the seriousness of this situation. We're all stuck in our ways and to accept this reality, it would mean too many lifestyle changes, and unfortunately, we're beholden to large industry on this planet that would completely collapse if the world collectively came together and actually did what is necessary to even have any remote chance of stopping this runaway freight train, which, I'm afraid, may already be too late.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

I tried to quote you but ATS is fubar at the moment ? They have an answer which is fine with me....Anything to stop TPTB from taxing all of us to EXTINCTION. Both the mammnoths and the taxes have about an equal amount of success IMO.
www.popsci.com...


Scientists have a fix for one of the greatest threats facing our climate. It’s big, it’s hairy, and it’s been dead 10,000 years.

In a madcap scheme to slow the melt of arctic permafrost, researchers are trying to resurrect the woolly mammoth.

How to Grow a Mammoth

Mammoth de-extinction sounds like complicated business, but there are actually only two ways to do it:
•Clone a mammoth using leftover tissue.
•Rejigger the genetic profile of the mammoth’s closest living relative, the Asian elephant, by inserting bits of mammoth DNA.

Researchers have made some progress on the first approach. In 2013, Russian scientists found viable tissue among the bony remains of a woolly mammoth they named “Buttercup.” Researchers are now trying to collect DNA from Buttercup’s well-preserved marrow cells. If all goes well, they will sneak her genetic blueprint into the egg of an elephant. The resulting embryo will be a Buttercup clone.

So far, scientists have yet to recover a complete mammoth genome. But that’s just the first challenge. Creating a viable embryo and bringing it to term is another problem entirely. Previous attempts at cloning have fared poorly. Scientists tried cloning the recently extinct ibex in 2003. They brought a baby Ibex to term, but the creature survived fewer than 10 minutes owing to a defective third lung.

The second approach to mammoth resurrection offers more promise. Scientists just need to make a few small adjustments to an elephant’s DNA. The new species would be less mammoth and more a mammoth-elephant hybrid — a winter-proofed pachyderm armed for life in the frigid north



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:10 PM
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a reply to: Rezlooper

I thought of you when I was posting the Thread... Glad you stopped by !



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:11 PM
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this is actually pretty scary to me, en.wikipedia.org... it is happening and killing people, just think of mass scale. frightful indeed.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:13 PM
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Nope...global warming...what's that? Never heard of it. Excuse me while I go put my head in this sand here and die instantly of methane inhalation under the permafrost.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:23 PM
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originally posted by: 727Sky
During the Permian extinction event around 250 million years ago it is said the volcanic activity started the process and warmed the earth around 5 degrees. But what happened next was the icing on the cake for 95% of all species to become extinct. The 5 degree warming released massive amounts of Methane which also warmed the earth another 5 degrees and it was just about curtains for life on planet earth. The oxygen content of the atmosphere and the oceans dropped precipitously along with all the heat... See link for full article and videos.


The ground in Siberia has been behaving strangely for a while now.

Remember those insanely giant craters that opened up out of nowhere? And how recently one of them exploded so violently that you could hear it from 60 miles away?

You can add this to the list of strange things that the ground really shouldn't do.



When permafrost thaws into soft soil, the liquid methane trapped underneath is released as a gas. This seems to be the case here: The research team who discovered the 15 or so patches of wobbly ground told the Siberian Times that methane and carbon dioxide emanated from the patch when they pierced it.

www.businessinsider.com...

For those who are interested in the Permian event skip to the six minute mark in the following video for what the whole domino event led to. youtu.be...


Longer video about the Permian which talks about the Siberian Trap and the flood Basalt that erupted enough lava to cover the entire USA up to one mile in depth.. Best hope that stuff does not ever happen again ! If the Lava or ash does not kill then the sulfuric acid will get most living creatures due to the effects it has on the climate and everything else. The Siberian trap erupted for around 1/2 a million years !
youtu.be...


So...okay...I don't quite get this leap you're making. You're mentioning global events that happened millions of years ago.....GLOBAL events....
And you're saying that because similar things are sort of happening in Serbia....that means that ...what?



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:31 PM
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a reply to: MrPlow

It is called Methane; sorry you don't get it.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:56 AM
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This isn't man made. Therefore the democrats cannot tax it. If the democrats cannot make money off of it, it's not dangerous. If they could tax and/or regulate it, this would be huge news



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 01:21 AM
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a reply to: MrPlow

Siberia bud. It means that catastrophic events are potentially on the horizon. Lake of fire?



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 06:27 AM
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Pure speculation. If you werent there 250 million years ago it means you are speculating



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Methane release from melting permafrost is a minor worry (seeing as we are going down this route!).

I would be / am far more concerned about Methane Clathrates being released from sea / ocean beds - the huge volumes involved make permafrost methane seem small fry in comparison.

And on that cheery note.........



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 09:49 AM
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We have a belief the world will remain static. Instead I propose the world is in transition continuously, and that it's all the life cycle. And very likely influenced by outside influences as well, ie. space debris, comets or the like depositing foreign life, which in turn live through their life cycles to completion. Usually complete, or near complete, death/disintegration follows.

www.youtube.com...

Something like the life cycle of mold on this orange, only on a planetary scale. Infinitely small to infinitely large, there could be worlds within worlds in the mold.. all in cycles living out their lives and vanishing as abruptly as they came



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: MrPlow

originally posted by: 727Sky
During the Permian extinction event around 250 million years ago it is said the volcanic activity started the process and warmed the earth around 5 degrees. But what happened next was the icing on the cake for 95% of all species to become extinct. The 5 degree warming released massive amounts of Methane which also warmed the earth another 5 degrees and it was just about curtains for life on planet earth. The oxygen content of the atmosphere and the oceans dropped precipitously along with all the heat... See link for full article and videos.


The ground in Siberia has been behaving strangely for a while now.

Remember those insanely giant craters that opened up out of nowhere? And how recently one of them exploded so violently that you could hear it from 60 miles away?

You can add this to the list of strange things that the ground really shouldn't do.



When permafrost thaws into soft soil, the liquid methane trapped underneath is released as a gas. This seems to be the case here: The research team who discovered the 15 or so patches of wobbly ground told the Siberian Times that methane and carbon dioxide emanated from the patch when they pierced it.

www.businessinsider.com...

For those who are interested in the Permian event skip to the six minute mark in the following video for what the whole domino event led to. youtu.be...


Longer video about the Permian which talks about the Siberian Trap and the flood Basalt that erupted enough lava to cover the entire USA up to one mile in depth.. Best hope that stuff does not ever happen again ! If the Lava or ash does not kill then the sulfuric acid will get most living creatures due to the effects it has on the climate and everything else. The Siberian trap erupted for around 1/2 a million years !
youtu.be...


So...okay...I don't quite get this leap you're making. You're mentioning global events that happened millions of years ago.....GLOBAL events....
And you're saying that because similar things are sort of happening in Serbia....that means that ...what?


global warming leads to Siberian permafrost melting which vents methane into the atmosphere which increases global warming.
the methane also blows stuff up.
woe to the mammoths.



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:15 PM
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a reply to: Flavian

I agree... There was an MIT study that said the southern ocean was cooling and then blamed the cooling effect on the Ozone hole ?? Anyway if the oceans warm in the deep levels enough to release significant amounts of the methane stored there all the preppers will be pissed for their efforts will have been in vain IMO.



posted on Jul, 24 2016 @ 05:16 AM
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a reply to: ElGoobero

Cows release more methane daily than any permafrost melting will, so I would be more worried about them than the permafrost melting.




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