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Leaked Donald Trump RNC 2016 Speech Packed With Lies And Shady Stats

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posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:29 AM
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a reply to: shredderofsouls

He already spoke of that tonight. He will get the brightest prosecutors and police officials together and come up with a plan to combat it. A life sentence for anybody that commits a crime with a firearm would be a good start. A life sentence for for being a prohibited possessor would as well. Rather than cities spreading their police forces out evenly to appease race baiters, perhaps flooding the worst neighborhoods with an unbalanced number of officers would be more appropriate.




posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:33 AM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

That is going to cost money and where does he think this money is going to come from, just wave his hand and poof more money?

I read on here from someone who suggested the exact same punishments (wish I could find that thread) and guess what...the 2nd amendment people and the GOP hated it because they also supported the left.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:35 AM
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originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: shredderofsouls

He will get the brightest prosecutors and police officials together and come up with a plan to combat it.



Well where they going to come from, because people like that do not vote Trump.
He speaks in small words and hate to appease his constituents and that is a fact.
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posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:37 AM
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originally posted by: shredderofsouls
a reply to: Arizonaguy

That is going to cost money and where does he think this money is going to come from, just wave his hand and poof more money?

I read on here from someone who suggested the exact same punishments (wish I could find that thread) and guess what...the 2nd amendment people and the GOP hated it because they also supported the left.


Well I imagine a whole lot of money will open up once we stop importing refugees and illegal aliens in record numbers,



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:38 AM
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originally posted by: shredderofsouls

originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: shredderofsouls

He will get the brightest prosecutors and police officials together and come up with a plan to combat it.



Well where they going to come from, because people like that do not vote Trump.
He speaks in small words and hate to appease his constituents and that is a fact.


They don't have to vote for him, they just have to work for him and us.That was a rather silly post.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:38 AM
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He has no plan and any plan he supposedly has, will cost Americans their rights and money.

Oh well, good night You notice I speak in small words and am not articulate and that is for you Trump supporters, that is because I know the people who hate these threads can understand and are able to form some sort of reply.
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posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:39 AM
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Well I've got to hand it to ya, your are the stereotypical Hillary supporter in every way. Ta'hell with facts and blind to your herders actions.

Trump wouldn't have to make more laws, in fact out of the many, many, many laws already on the books, just enforce the ones that are there.

You have a point with his claims on shutting down parts of the internet and silencing media outlets but Ol'Hill shares the same sentiments only in regards to her emails.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:40 AM
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a reply to: shredderofsouls

Predictable...when all else fails demean and insult. Come on back when you have something worthwhile.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:43 AM
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a reply to: JinMI

Last reply. Well what about his stance on the 2nd amendment.

No-Fly List, No Guns: Trump Agrees with Obama, Clinton. He Thinks the NRA Should, Too.




I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 15, 2016



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:43 AM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

If you want a pro hillary tread then start one so we don't have to hear you whine about it.


People starring away at this post that so very totally missed the mark/point. Just. Wow.

This really is Pavlovian. Fascinating.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:44 AM
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originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: shredderofsouls

Predictable...when all else fails demean and insult. Come on back when you have something worthwhile.



I am not insulting, just stating the truth, don't take it too personal, if you feel you are one those people, well that is not my fault.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:48 AM
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a reply to: shredderofsouls

If you thoroughly read that all encompassing proposal you would know that it's more of a 14th amendment issue and not 2nd. I'm sure you knew that though.




posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 12:50 AM
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a reply to: Arizonaguy

The OP never has anything worthwhile.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 01:03 AM
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a reply to: shredderofsouls

Looks like they took bits and pieces from various speeches, interviews and offhand comments to form a Frankenstein of a narrative, and failed miserably.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 01:05 AM
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I love how people are so smug in saying "See he lied" without even looking at the accusations. How about taking the time to go through and see if these accusations from the Daily Beast are true?

I guess I will do it for you. I am going to go through this article’s claims of lies one by one and show them to be false. I encourage everyone to read Trumps transcript and the ops article for themselves and see the truth. The op article will be in bold.

“Trump said that homicides increased by 17 percent from last year in the country’s 50 largest cities. He did not say, however, that the national homicide rate hit a four-decade low last year, according to the FBI — or that the number of people murdered in the 50 largest cities has declined by half since 1991.”

This is not a lie on Trumps part here. They acknowledge that Trumps stat is true, that it is up 17% from last year, they are just upset that he leaves out they are down since 1991. So one Trump didn’t lie here, and second, even if they claim it is misleading (which it isn’t) why do they use 1991 instead of when Obama took office? Trumps point is that law and order has recently broken down during the Obama administration and how they have handled things in the past year.

“According to Politifact, Trump’s often-repeated assertion that there is no vetting system for Syrian refugees is not true. That process can take as long as one year or more, and each refugee is interviewed by officials in the Department of Homeland Security and required to attend cultural classes and pass a medical review.”

Trump said “She proposes this despite the fact that there’s no way to screen these refugees in order to find out who they are or where they come from. I only want to admit individuals into our country who will support our values and love our people.” Trump is correct. He did not say there is no vetting process, he said there is no way of knowing who they are. This has been admitted in this article dailycaller.com... which says “FBI director James Comey said during a House Committee on Homeland Security hearing on Wednesday that the federal government does not have the ability to conduct thorough background checks on all of the 10,000 Syrian refugees that the Obama administration says will be allowed to come to the U.S.” “And so if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interest reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home, but there will be nothing show up because we have no record of them.”

“In light of the recent shootings of police officers in Dallas and Baton Rouge, Trump claimed that the number of officers killed in the line of duty has increased by almost 50 percent year-to-year. The National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund says the number has gone up only slightly—from 62 officers through July 20 of last year to 67 killed so far this year.”

This is knit picking again. According to the Officer Down Memorial page, it is true that it went for 62 to 67. However, these numbers include things like heart attacks, 9/11 related deaths, vehicle accidents. These aren’t attacks on police, they are natural cause or accidents. The same cite for example says gun fire deaths of cops are up 82%, which is a far more relevant number. The exact number is hard to find, but certainly the truth is gun attacks are substantially up against police this year, so this is not a lie.

“Turning to the world—and Clinton—Trump said the U.S. should discontinue its policy of “nation building and regime change that Hillary Clinton pushed in Iraq, Libya, Egypt and Syria.” But Trump supported the Libya intervention in 2011, saying at the time: “At this point, if you don’t get rid of Gaddafi, it’s a major, major black eye for this country.”

That still wouldn’t make Trumps claim a lie. By this measure, Hillary voted for Iraq, so she is always held to that. It is a fact that Obama and Clinton have engaged in nation building.

” Trump’s dubious contentions are not limited to law and order issues. The billionaire businessman claimed 14 million people “left the workplace entirely.” For context, the current workforce has 4.6 million more people than in 2009. He criticized Obama on the national debt, claiming it doubled. It has actually increased from $11.1 trillion to $19.2 trillion.”

Again, they acknowledge that what Trump said was true, 14 million have left the work force. They just say there are other facts weren’t mentioned.

As for the debt, Trump said the debt “nearly doubled” which 11.1 trillion to 19.2 trillion is nearly doubling, also true.

“Trump also suggested that Clinton is responsible for the creation of ISIS in the Middle East—even though the group did not formally split from al Qaeda until after she left office. He suggested that sanctions on Iran decreased during her tenure in government; in fact, they increased.”

He merely said before Hillary, ISIS didn’t exist, and afterwards they now have a foothold. Is the article really so naïve to believe that just because the formally announced right after her departure makes this a lie? He is saying her policies allowed it to be created. It is true it wasn’t there before her, and it is afterwards.

He also never claimed Hillary decreased sanctions, he said Iran was choked by sanctions before her, and is on the path to nukes afterwards. This again isn’t a lie.

“Additionally, he incorrectly stated that Egypt was “turned over” to the Muslim Brotherhood, “forcing the military to retake control.” Mohammed Morsi, the former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, was democratically elected in 2012 and ousted from power by the military one year later.”

This one is really funny, because it answers itself. During Hillary’s tenure the Muslim brotherhood one an election, or as Trump would put it, was handed leadership, and the military had t take control one year later. I assume they have a problem with the phrase “handed over” but what did they think Trump met, that Hillary personally took out the leadership and then pronounced the Muslim Brotherhood leaders. The phrase handed over is the same you here when people say the US handed over control of Iraq to ISIS by pulling out. Again not a lie.

That’s it. Not one of these supposed “lies” is actually a lie. Now this is the important part. Look at how many claims made in his speech. These people spent all day trying to make this speech out to be a lie, and they could only come up with a few examples that they were actually wrong about. The liberal media has been saying all night that the speech contained lies, yet I haven’t seen any proven. I would take that as a concession that all of the other claims Trump made in his speech about how bad the country is going is true.

Even CNN on Don Lemmon’s show had pundits claiming all of Trumps crime stats were lies, but then were shamed when their own fact checker showed they were true. I can’t wait to see the Daily Beasts or CNN fact check of Hillary speeches (yeah right).



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 01:30 AM
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originally posted by: shredderofsouls
a reply to: Arizonaguy
How does the this fool think he is going to change...

Man you can't turn it off, can you?

he wants to make it easier so that he would be able to sue people who attack him.

This lie again. Of course. When you can't prove a fact, just lie and repeat the lie.


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posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 07:56 AM
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What a terrible way to make this accusation - with awful sources of data woven into articles dripping with bias /facepalm

I guess we all have to remember:

only #liberalsourcesmatter and #liberalstatsmatter

Trump totally took apart Obama's and Hillary's regime of crime, hate and death both domestically and overseas. The meltdown on the left is expected and as usual they will say anything and do anything to cover up their mess.

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posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: shredderofsouls

You are pretty biased, and using every chance to spread Hillary's propaganda, but can't you wait till we actually hear his speech?

Jesus.



Yea this is what the lib propaganda ministry calls "Pre-crime Propaganda". From "leaked".....whatever.....like a liberals leaking whatever.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: shredderofsouls

Predictable...when all else fails demean and insult. Come on back when you have something worthwhile.



sounds like he took a page out of Trump's playbook.



posted on Jul, 22 2016 @ 08:47 AM
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No they cant turn it off. This is right out of Nazi propaganda method.....and anyone else that fancied themselves better than the truth....."tell a lie long enough and the people will believe it".

Press is worse than I have ever seen them. Desperate. Don't care that they are exposed worse than ever as liberal tool propaganda wing. Watch them flail as they dangle from their own petard.



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