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Zika case in Florida is unrelated to travel...and yet the U.S. will not back out of the Olympics.

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posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: marg6043


Now Another issue that is plaguing Brazil and specially the areas where the games will be played is the lax laws and rules regarding pollution and water poisoning.

That should be the biggest worry no zika.


That's double worrisome! The two probably go hand-in-hand, since mosquitoes breed in standing water. That could compound both problems.




posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Boadicea

I would be worry if I was a women of childbearing years,



There's no better way to whip up mass hysteria than giving pregnant women another issue to worry about.

I've been visiting The Bump forums to get a feel for how concerned pregnant women are. They are concerned. They're cancelling babymoons. I saw one Canadian woman cancelled a trip to Connecticut!

Also, I was reading there that some women in the U.S. that have been tested for Zika are waiting six weeks for results.

That really has to suck. I'm glad I am done having babies.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

A vaccine ready to go, with no enough testing to see the undesirable side effects, well what will be worst, getting zika or been sick for life with an untested or no long tested enough vaccine.

I take zika.

For the experiences of family members that had dengue, (me), hemorrhagic mutation of dengue, (my mother) and chikungunya, my family members say that dengue and chikungunya are by far worst than zika.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
What other agendas are advanced by this maneuvering?


It's a good question. I'll have to think about that. Zika will be exploited for all it's worth.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Me too, but for what I have learned from my family in PR, so far the government has told women of childbearing years to wait until the virus is been controlled, (as usual once you have it you are immune), as a precaution.

The federal government wants to spray in the Island for mosquito control, but the people that are behind science and natural resources in the Island have not seen enough danger (only one person death so far from zika), to put the entire Island ecosystem in danger.

Kind of makes you wonder about what zika is or not.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: MotherMayEye

A vaccine ready to go, with no enough testing to see the undesirable side effects, well what will be worst, getting zika or been sick for life with an untested or no long tested enough vaccine.

I take zika.

For the experiences of family members that had dengue, (me), hemorrhagic mutation of dengue, (my mother) and chikungunya, my family members say that dengue and chikungunya are by far worst than zika.



My sister, niece, and nephew all had chikungunya after a mission trip to Haiti, last summer. It took my sister months to get over it. She had horrible joint pain and started to get terrified she couldn't work (she's a dentist). My niece and nephew are young and they recovered within a week.

It's really the babies that are most worrying. You can't recover from microcephaly.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye


I am confident that they wouldn't create a problem they could not control. I think the vaccine is all ready to be rolled out.


Of course you're right... (think Bo! Think!)... they whole point of creating the crisis is so that they can "fix it" and be heroes... or heroines as the case may be.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
Kind of makes you wonder about what zika is or not.


I do wonder about that, too. I just didn't want to create a thread about it. I have my doubts about what we've been told. I have zero faith it's the truth...especially since I see people in power who could prevent a mass outbreak after the Olympics not doing anything about it at all.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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The zika virus is the least of the problems they are going to face at the olympics,anyone who goes deserves what happens to them. if a person goes and brings home zika or any other nasty disease they should be held personally financially responsible for any outbreak.
There are plenty of warnings of what they will face at the olympics so ignorance is no excuse.
The water venues are literally cesspools full of human waste,garbage,dead animals and dead bodies.
forewarned is forearmed,if people want to go and risk their lives that`s their right but they don`t have the right to bring that stuff home and risk other peoples lives,that`s just gross negligence.



July 5, 2016: Brazilian scientists discover a drug-resistant "super bacteria" thriving in the water off the coasts of Rio de Janeiro. This includes beaches that border Guanabara Bay.
June 30, 2016: Human body parts, including a foot, wash up on the shore of the Copacabana beach in front of the venue that will host beach volleyball competitions 36 days later.
Among the things Olympic sailors have reported seeing while training in and testing out the venues of Guanabara Bay, one of the sites for the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro, are mattresses, cars, washing machines, trees, tables, televisions, couches, and chairs, as well as dead dogs, horses, and cats. The Brazilian sailor Lars Grael, a two-time Olympic medalist, told the Times last year that he has seen human bodies on four separate occasions.
May 7, 2016: The murder of a 17-year-old girl in Rio de Janeiro compels soccer star Rivaldo to discourage his 400,000+ Instagram followers from visiting Brazil this summer. "Things are getting uglier here every day. I advise everyone with plans to visit Brazil for the Olympics in Rio — to stay home."
June 3, 2016: CNN reports gun battles are a semi-regular occurrence in Rio de Janeiro.
June 20, 2016: A shootout grips Rio de Janeiro's largest public hospital after armed gunmen conduct a raid to free an imprisoned drug kingpin known as "Fat Family." One person died at the Souza Aguiar Hospital, which is one of five designated clinics to treat Olympic patrons.


www.sbnation.com...

and then there`s this:


Friday, July 15, 2016, First female-to-male sexual transmission of Zika virus infection reported in New York City


www.cdc.gov...
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posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

I was in PR, two years ago vacationing, the chikungunya was in full gear, it was august so the weather was perfect for mosquito breading, hot steamy over 100% percent humidity, we spend two weeks and spray our self constantly.

My sister was still suffering from the side effects months after, specially in one ankle and wrist, it does makes you feel like you have RA and if you have arthritis is makes it worst.

Both my husband parents and my parents had it they are in their 80s and they survived fine, now that I am thinking about it, it was not a person that I met that didn't had the virus.

Now, once you are immune the virus kind of die down, until a mutation comes in.

The zika main symptom so far is body rash, my sister is a radiologist and she say that every women that become pregnant is been tested, so far is been no cases of babies, the government have allocated funds in case of babies are born with brain issues.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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Yes, no long ago the US government was no very happy with some of the areas where the games were going to be held as the places were not testing very safe for people to be in.

Specially bodies of water, the water pollution is terrible.

As for people bringing zika to the US, is know for a fact that people are flying constantly from PR in the Caribbean to NY and so far I have not heard of news of infected people from PR in NY.

So far one women came from south America pregnant and the baby had brain issues but she knew that her baby was going to be born like that, so far the NY health department had gotten cases of mild zika symptoms or no symptoms at all.

And it takes a zika mosquito carrier to pass on the virus, that is how it works, the scaremongering that you can get contaminated by sex or fluids is not true.

If people comes to the US infected they will not pass the virus without the mosquito, some people get zika and never get any side effects like rash.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

As long as 'they' are telling us that Zika causes microcephaly and as long as Zika keeps spreading, I am going to expect an increase in the rate of microcephaly...regardless of whether Zika actually causes microcephaly or not.




posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

That is the part of the zika side effects that I would love to research on, yes scaring women of childbearing years to be afraid works like a charm.

But is something more that meet the eye, why most of the cases of children with brain issues are limited to south America, like Columbia and Brazil.

I did read a while back that Brazil loves to do certain testing that sometimes goes wrong, like the killer bees that we got now and originated in brazil after one guy mix African bees with docile America bees and they end up escaping the lab.

I got the feeling that is more to it and zika is the scapegoat to blame.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 12:37 PM
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And it takes a zika mosquito carrier to pass on the virus, that is how it works, the scaremongering that you can get contaminated by sex or fluids is not true.



well, someone should inform the center for disease control about that because according to the CDC:


The New York City report of female-to-male sexual transmission of Zika virus infection is the first documented case of sexual transmission of Zika from a woman to her sex partner and adds to the growing body of knowledge about the sexual transmission of Zika. All previously reported cases of sexually transmitted Zika virus infection have been spread from men to their sex partners.

CDC recommends that all pregnant women who have a sex partner who has traveled to or resides in an area with Zika use barrier methods every time they have sex or they should not have sex during the pregnancy. Although no cases of woman-to-woman Zika transmission have been reported, these recommendations now also apply to female sex partners of pregnant women.

CDC is currently updating recommendations for sexually active people in which the couple is not pregnant or concerned about pregnancy and for people who want to reduce personal risk of Zika infection through sex.


www.cdc.gov...

maybe the virus is mutating and this is a new form of it?



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

That was a speculation without proper research that came from some scientific papers, until futher testing is done is just that.


Zika virus has already been linked to brain damage in babies and paralysis in adults. Now scientists are facing another ominous possibility: that on rare occasions, the virus might be transmitted through sex.

The evidence is very slim; only a couple of cases have been described in medical literature. But a few experts feel the prospect is disturbing enough that federal health officials should inform all travelers, not just pregnant women, of the potential danger.

Officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, however, say the evidence is insufficient to warrant such a warning. While the two instances suggest a “theoretical risk” of sexual transmission, they note the primary vector is clearly mosquitoes.

Dr. Márcio Nehab, a pediatrician and infectious disease specialist at Fiocruz, a research institute in Rio de Janeiro, said that much more research was needed to be done to definitively prove that Zika can be transmitted during sex.


“At the moment we need to be more concerned with the mosquito, the vector known for transmitting the virus,” Dr. Nehab said in an information bulletin about Zika geared toward women and children.

At the moment, experts know of just one case in the medical literature of live Zika virus being detected in a man’s semen.


www.nytimes.com...

I will take this just as scaremongering.

But as with any other virus mutations can happen



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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Hm:


Zika virus (ZIKV) is a mosquito-borne flavivirus transmitted by Aedes species [1,2]. It is also the first flavivirus known to be sexually transmittable between symptomatic patients [3-6]. We here report a ZIKV sexual transmission in a couple returning from Martinique, whereby both partners were asymptomatic.


Sexual transmission of Zika virus in an entirely asymptomatic couple returning from a Zika epidemic area, France, April 2016


This infectious viral load in semen possibly suggests that Zika virus is a sexually transmitted pathogen. The duration of excretion is unknown, but the virus might persist for many months. Ebola virus RNA has been detected in semen 7–9 months after disease onset.


Zika virus: high infectious viral load in semen, a new sexually transmitted pathogen? (direct .pdf link)

Conflicting info?



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 01:10 PM
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This new york case just happened last week.



In the report, researchers found that a man, who was in his 20s and did not travel outside the United States during the year before his illness, contracted the virus after one instance of vaginal intercourse, without a condom, with a woman who had recently returned from a country where the virus is endemic.
The woman, described as being in her 20s and not pregnant, had sex with her partner the day she returned to the city. The report does not name the country she visited,She reported having headache and abdominal cramping while in the airport before returning to N.Y.C.,” the report said. The next day she developed a number of symptoms associated with Zika, including fever, fatigue, a rash, back pain, swelling of the extremities, and numbness and tingling in her hands and feet.Her primary care physician sent blood and urine samples to the city and state health department laboratories for testing. The tests detected the virus but not antibodies to it, which suggested she was newly infected; it takes four or five days for the body to begin producing antibodies.Seven days after intercourse, the woman’s partner developed a fever, followed by a rash, joint pain and conjunctivitis. The report said the man had not had any other recent sexual partners or been bitten by a mosquito within a week before his illness.

Three days later, the man went to the same primary care physician who had diagnosed Zika in his partner. The physician sent samples of his urine to the same laboratories, and the virus was detected.


There`s no doubt or speculation in this case.

www.nytimes.com...


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posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 01:15 PM
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This the original papers on the zika.

Probable Non–Vector-borne Transmission of Zika Virus, Colorado, USA


Two American scientists (patients 1 and 2) lived and worked in the village of Bandafassi in southeastern Senegal in August 2008 while performing a mosquito-sampling project in surrounding villages. Patients 1 and 2 were men (36 and 27 years of age, respectively), and both had received the yellow fever 17D vaccine before their travel to Senegal. During their project, both patients reported being bitten often by wild Aedes spp. mosquitoes in the evenings while they worked. Patients 1 and 2 left Bandafassi on August 21, stayed in Dakar for 2 days, and then returned to their homes in northern Colorado on August 24. Both patients became ill 6–9 days after their return.

Symptoms in patient 1 began on August 30 and consisted of swollen ankles, a maculopapular rash on his torso, and extreme fatigue and headache, but no fever was recorded. On August 31, he experienced the same symptoms and light-headedness and chills, wrist and ankle arthalgia, and symptoms of prostatitis (perineal pain and mild dysuria). However, he remained afebrile. Fatigue and rash decreased on September 1; only residual wrist arthralgia, headache, and prostatic symptoms persisted. On September 2, two aphthous ulcers appeared on his lip. On September 3, he and his wife observed signs of hematospermia (red–brown fluid in his ejaculate) that lasted until September 7. Patient 2 experienced his symptoms during August 29–September 1, which included a maculopapular rash on his torso, extreme fatigue, headache, and swelling and arthralgia in his wrists, knees, and ankles. However, symptoms of prostatitis or hematospermia did not devlop. Acute-phase blood samples were obtained from both patients on September


One thing that this two patients had in common was that both both had received the yellow fever 17D vaccine before their travel to Senegal and both knows that they were bitten often by wild Aedes.


Conclusions

Evidence suggests that patients 1 and 2 were infected with ZIKV, probably in southeastern Senegal, by bites from infected mosquitoes. The village of Bandafassi is located in a disease-endemic area where ZIKV has been isolated from humans, nonhuman primates, and mosquitoes (4,5). Serologic results suggest an anamnestic response to ZIKV infection, likely stemming from their vaccination with YFV. The time between infection and the onset of clinical manifestations can be inferred to be >9 days, given the patients’ travel history. Their clinical symptoms are consistent with reported symptoms of ZIKV-associated disease (3,6–9). Exceptions are aphthous ulcers in patient 1 (also reported by patient 3), prostatitis, and hematospermia. Whether these exceptions are typical but unreported symptoms or clinical anomalies is not clear.


www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

The conclusion of the study suggest that the two patients ZIKV infection was a direct result of from their vaccination with YFV

I read the two links both none shows if the people couple that got infected had the yellow fever 17D vaccine before their travel.

Most often than not before leaving a country to visit another people are required to follow vaccinations.

So I find interesting the link of the yellow fever vaccine and the cases of ZIKV persistence after infection.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 01:19 PM
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The article doesn't include the country where she traveled and if she was vaccinated before traveling. I still think is a link to vaccinations prior to ZIKA.

This very interesting and people needs to know that is risk to long term zika in the body and certain vaccinations.

Perhaps that is why the government is so scare about ZIKA in the US, we are a very vaccinated nation and can make ZIKA linger longer than expected because of this.



posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

it doesn`t matter how she got it or where she got it,the point is she had it and it WAS sexually transmitted to her partner.


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