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originally posted by: kaylaluv
I'm not really understanding the point of your thread. Are you claiming that people who use the term "people of color" are racists? What about that term makes them racist? What makes you think that this makes them feel superior? Why is the term "color" superior in your mind? Why is the term "white" inferior in your mind? What makes you think that people who use the term "people of color" are trying to insult white people?
originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: TheBulk
Perhaps we could spend less energy focusing on our skin shades, and actually consider, I dunno, saving our degrading environment? I mean here we are, in the middle of climate change issues and shortage of water and extinction of species, and the only possible thing we can do is find new ways to divide ourselves based on our skin colour?
No offence, but who cares if some guys in YouTube debate whether white skin is a colour or not? Don't we have more pressing issues as a species??
originally posted by: TheBulk
This term has always bothered me. It seems to imply that human beings are separated into two groups. A group that has color, and a group that is colorless. Of course this is absurd, white people obviously do have color, when I get tan I'm darker than some light-skinned black people.
I see quite a few of you on the forums use this term and I'd like you to defend it. There are a bunch of racists on YouTube that like to make a big deal about the pigmentation of white people's skin so I just like to know if the people using the term people of color really do think they are separate from white people based on a percived superior melanin count.
originally posted by: supremecommander
Technically we are all people of color.
the black people who tout melanin levels as a sign of superiority are the same as white people who view white skin as a sign of superiority. they're all ignorant.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: TheBulk
If one is speaking specifically about a group, they tend to use some type of term to describe that group. Otherwise, how would you know who they are talking about? I mean, it wouldn't do any good to say something like "the history of that you-know-who group..." What group are they referring to?
If you have to use a term when specifically addressing that group of people, what term would you use? If you say, black, you do realize that not all of them are truly black - some are more coffee-colored, some are darker. So if you're going to get nitpicky about words, that one isn't literally correct either. If you say African-Americans, then that leaves out those who are not American.
So what term would you use if you wanted to specifically discuss that group?
originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: supremecommander
Does your statement (the contents of which I knew nothing about I might add until now) mean that the main problems come from within the black communities themselves? Do you think if such internal racism was done away with, most other forms of racism would stop too? If there is infighting and racism with each other how can they unite and stop the widening gap?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: TheBulk
I have never heard a Hispanic or an Asian or a Native American Indian use the term "people of color" to describe themselves.
Earlier this month, The Smith Sophian, Smith College’s independent newspaper, published a piece “Rethinking Smith’s Bridge Program” by Dominica Cao ‘18 questioning the importance of the Bridge Program, a pre-orientation program for entering students of color. The writer stated that because Bridge stands for cultural inclusivity, the program should be open to white students to truly be inclusive. Without knowing the ethnicity of the writer, it’s easy to presume (as I did) that she is white and that her voice adds to white privilege and culture that demands people of color feel guilty about addressing systematic discrimination. However, upon realizing that the author is actually Asian American, I saw the piece in a different light. I saw a younger version of myself, someone who was not equipped with the vocabulary to talk about the experience of being a person of color without disturbing the façade of respectability culture surrounding race and the Asian American experience.
originally posted by: redhorse
a reply to: TheBulk
We arrange ourselves into cultural groups and appearance is a big part of the identification process we all engage in. For example, "White" is also associated with a specific culture in the United States, those of European and British Isles descent. I am a white woman. I am culturally white, I look white, I act white, I identify as white. My DNA however, is not quite so white. We assign these words to cultures, and the words often center upon a specific physical trait; color is an easy identifier. If you aren't the color associated with that culture or social group you likely wouldn't be accepted by the group anyway. Shallow maybe, but inevitable.
originally posted by: TheBulk
originally posted by: redhorse
a reply to: TheBulk
We arrange ourselves into cultural groups and appearance is a big part of the identification process we all engage in. For example, "White" is also associated with a specific culture in the United States, those of European and British Isles descent. I am a white woman. I am culturally white, I look white, I act white, I identify as white. My DNA however, is not quite so white. We assign these words to cultures, and the words often center upon a specific physical trait; color is an easy identifier. If you aren't the color associated with that culture or social group you likely wouldn't be accepted by the group anyway. Shallow maybe, but inevitable.
That's all fine. I'm talking about this term that separates whites from everyone else, implying we're somehow different from the rest.
In my opinion, “people of color” is an effective way to describe non-white people in the United States. One can correctly argue that “white” people are people of color, or that some Latinos are white; however, unless the goal is to endlessly argue semantics, it’s more useful to use a common phrase to describe people who are commonly thought of as not being white by the white majority in this country.
I’ve heard endless arguments from progressive people about nomenclature. It’s tiresome, boring and counterproductive. You can call it diversity or inclusion or popcorn—as soon as the bigots figure out the code, they’re going to denigrate the word. By sticking to standard phraseology, we keep the discussion pointed toward progress rather than log rolling ourselves into irrelevance.