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Now there is no other way than to liberate Syria and Iraq, it is not counterproductive because IS has been largely defeated.
What we absolutely must do, -and i hope Russia, the US and the EU have been discussing this- is providing help to both countries to rebuild it after
I'm sure that those who are bombing targets within Syria and Iraq are not laughing, but one cannot reason with the enemy, inaction from the western
side paves the way for IS to continue their slaughtering and war against the Syrians and Iraqi people.
Even if that means more attacks within the EU because many muslims seem to stand behind IS and dislike our western lifestyle.
During WW2 the allied forces also bombed us in order to liberate the Netherlands and other countries.
many civilians died during those bombings, including children, but inaction from the allied forces would have given Hitler a sure victory.
The question in my view is, where did it go wrong?
The answer is obviously tied to two wars which were fought in the eighties and nineties.
1) Russia invaded and destroyed Afghanistan, the US provided weapons and assistance to the Afghan people which enabled them to eventually defeat the
russians, but during this 10 years of war, Afghanistan was largely destroyed.
We (and with that i mean 'the world') should have taken our responsibility and help the afghan people to rebuild their country.
But we didn't, because of our inaction extremists were able to form groups and grow until the mid nineties when they were strong enough to take over
the country and establish a harsh islamic regime.
During the reign of the taliban, al qaeda had trainingcamps within Afghanistan, our inaction after the taliban seized power has led to 9/11.
Pim Fortuyn (our would be PM) said at the time, "let's not go to war and drop bombs on innocent people", but that is exactly what the US did with a
'you're either with us or against us' mentality.
War on terror had started.
2) In august 1990 Saddam hussein invaded Kuwait but the gulf states have weapons and military protection from the US in exchange for the
Iraq was given an ultimatum, they had to retreat their army forces and be out of Kuwait at Jan 15, 1991.
They did not and therefore the US invaded Iraq.
Saddam should have been forced to step down in 1991, but the US left him in power and simply sanctioned Iraq for years to come.
After the iraq war, the rebellion from the iraqi people against Saddam Hussein was defeated, they obviously thought they would be helped by the US
forces, but that did not happen.
In 2002 the US removed him from power, based on false powell points and it had caused many civilian lives.
The good part is that both Afghanistan and Iraq were receiving the necessary help in order to build up their society again but by that time an extreme
version of islam was planted deeply within the islamic community.
It has been spread widely because extremists were able to poison the minds of young muslims within Europe.
In 2004 Theo van Gogh was killed by a member of the hofstadgroup which consisted of young muslims who had been indoctrinated by an extremist.
More saddening is that many imams who are invited to Europe are extremists, hence it should not be a surprise to anyone, that islam has a hugh
negative reputation currently.
Either the extremists teach the real islam, then we should stop saying that islam is a religion of peace and remove islam from our society.
If that is not real islam, than muslims should cleanse their religion from these extremists and teach the real islam instead of hate.
What we can do is learn from our mistakes, be there for our fellow humans in Iraq and Syria, help them with food and medicines and with rebuilding
their country after this war.