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Topic started on 18-1-2005 @ 09:38 PM by GradyPhilpott
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Brett Scallion, lead singer for the Pennsylvania band, Fuel, that played for a concert hosted by the Bush twins to honor teenage volunteers, used
profane language to express his pride in America. George W. Bush arrived after the faux pas to praise the teenagers. The audience also included many
preteens who were attracted by the appearance of Hilary Duff.
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You might say the Janet Jackson moment of President Bush's inaugural festivities came Tuesday at a youth concert with hundreds of preteen Hilary Duff
fans in the audience.
No nudity was involved, but the Vince Neil-style profanity probably didn't win rock band Fuel any fans at the Federal Communications Commission, nor
from the parents at the concert. Now the Pennsylvania band is just hoping the concert, "America's Future Rocks Today," wasn't aired live.
Borrowing a word from Motley Crue's Neil, the lead singer of Fuel proclaimed, "Welcome to the greatest ----ing country in the world." Brett Scallions
followed with a quick apology of "excuse my language."
The FCC is investigating Neil's wish to band mate Tommy Lee for a "Happy ----ing New Year," which aired live on NBC on New Year's Eve.
Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
This is getting out of hand. I'm a Marine. I can curse with the worst. I've heard it all, but I can control myself in "polite company." I know
that these filthy rich celebrities are just pushing the envelope because they can afford the fines and whatnot. What is most concerning is that we
may be witnessing an entire generation who find it impossible to express themselves without profanity. With all the preteens in attendance, the hosts
of the event and its intent, it will be interesting to see what, if any, fallout there will be. If Fuel has a record out, it will probably sell out
tomorrow.
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reply posted on 18-1-2005 @ 11:36 PM by MemoryShock
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I don't think there will be any fallout, and I don't think it's a bg deal. With respect GradyPhilpott, the concert wasn't "polite company." I
think the country is too easily shocked and should take a breath and look up the word "relevant."
That said, I don't think an entire generation should be judged by a well publicized incident. I hail from said generation, and I believe my attempts
at alliteration are not only without profanity, but concise and with value(my own opinion of course, if we don't have that what do we have  ).
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reply posted on 18-1-2005 @ 11:43 PM by GradyPhilpott
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A hall full of teens and preteens is not polite company? I failed to note any attempt at alliteration in your response, with the exception of the
phrase "attempts at alliteration." If that is what you are speaking of, then I commend you for resisting the urge to insert a profanity into such a
concise phrase.
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reply posted on 18-1-2005 @ 11:56 PM by MemoryShock
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A rock concert is not polite company. The lyrics expressed in their cds are listened to by these same adolescents, they have heard it before and
probably expect to hear it in person, live and on stage. Also, take a look at context; most vulgarities of this type are used in an actual offensive
manner. He was being patriotic, albeit crassly.
I stand by my opinion.
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reply posted on 18-1-2005 @ 11:59 PM by djohnsto77
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At least he cursed in a patriotic way, which more than what most Hollywood celebs and other rock stars do.
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 01:04 AM by swintersVT
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To be blunt: Who cares? Freedom of expression.
Unless a person is living a sheltered life, he/she has probably heard the word used before by a relative or some form of entertainment (music, tv,
movies, sat. radio). If parents have not developed a line of communication with their children, I suggest they attempt to put down the remote, pen,
keyboard, mouse, work, or whatever else and get to know their kid.
Mitch: "...and all I want to do is get some .... sleep. "
Beanie: "'Whoa. Whoa. Why the ...? Why in front of the kid? All ya gotta do is say "earmuffs" to him, and you can say ..., ..., ..."
Frank: "...., ...."
Beanie: "I'm just trying to make a point, Frank. You don't have to celebrate it."
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 01:51 AM by Simulacra
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GradyPhilpott you know just as well as I know that the taboo on certain words of the English vocabulary needs to be 'lifted'. Language should
not be censored. It's the primary way of obtaining knowledge and the only way to transfer ideas. 'Curse words' can be the most efficient and
meaningful way to convey an emotion.
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 06:58 AM by Tesla
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Are we back to Puritan England?
Can you say "Rock star"??????
Can you say.....
If Fuel has a record out, it will probably sell out tomorrow.

IF?????
TRY 6!!!
I guess Republican rock stars aren't supposed to curse.
(Rumor has it that "W" uses the "F" word constantly!!)
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 07:22 AM by LadyV
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
If Fuel has a record out, it will probably sell out tomorrow.

LOL If Fuel has a record out!? They've had several CDs out and they all sell out. Fuel is a very large band at the moment!
I like a lot of what they do. I am one of those that feels that you can get a message through without all the vulgarity, but that's just me....
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 03:53 PM by pfcret
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It never seems to amaze me, our so called celebrities and their mouths. I was always taught to behave in public, but I never had a record or could
carry a tune in a bucket. I spent my career cursing with the best and I just don't want to hear this stuff all the time. I suppose that once you
become a legend in your own mind celebrity, you can do what you want......NOT.
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 04:24 PM by GradyPhilpott
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I'm so sorry I've never heard of Fuel. I listened to some of their music last night and I have to say that what I heard is not particularly
inspiring. I agree that all the words are important, but context is everything and profanity does not belong in every venue. ATS comes immediately
to mind. If you can't express yourselves without profanity or expletives of any form, you need to work on your vocabulary, because there will come a
time when a slip of the tongue will cost you dearly.
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 08:11 PM by jsobecky
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It's very difficult to explain why profanity in normal everyday conversation is so objectionable, especially if you're trying to explain it to the
younger generation. They have taken it from shock effect and made it part of their vocabulary.
I take it as a sign of plain laziness or poor vocabulary. IMO, you should talk the way you'd be comfortable talking to your grandmother, or other
person you respect, or have influence over, like your child or her school teacher.
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 08:25 PM by Janus
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Most of the kids there prob curse worse than any Rock Star anyway
Excuse my ignorence but who on Gods Green Earth is Hilary Duff?
EDIT:Forget that i just Googled her, shes pretty Hot!
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 08:51 PM by justme1640
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While I am not a marine I can certainly curse with the worst of them too -- but one thing I find funny nowdays is I was the other day I said "Oh
balderdash" and I would have gotten less of a reaction if I had said "That's **ing nonsense" Which I have been known to say also.
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 09:06 PM by GradyPhilpott
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Golly gee! Hilary Duff has a guitar shaped like a, hmm, well, shaped like a, let's see, a, well, a heart. I think.
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 09:13 PM by justme1640
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now Grady -- where is your mind? Are you old enough to qualify as a Dirty Old Man? Or just a young man with a good imagination.  And as a Marine
you should recognize it --after all it is a "Purple Heart"
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 09:15 PM by Tesla
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Old enough to go to jail for that!!
again.... ROCKSTAR!!!
If you want nicy nice, listen to Top 40, not rock.
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reply posted on 19-1-2005 @ 09:19 PM by GradyPhilpott
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Oh, yeah. The Purple Heart. I should have recognized it right off the bat. All it needs is a bust of Washington and a gold border.
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