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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
America is the poster child for the West, but I see you have changed your argument to America not being the West now. Keep moving the goalposts.
America is what almost everyone thinks of when someone says "the West", but I'm sure you will deny it and insert semantics into it somehow.
The point WAS that nukes have not stifled war and/or armed conflcts even a tiny bit. They're both just as prevalent today than they were before WW2, if not moreso.
A study published in the Journal of Conflict Resolution in 2009 quantitatively evaluated the nuclear peace hypothesis and found support for the existence of the stability-instability paradox. The study determined that while nuclear weapons promote strategic stability and prevent largescale wars, they simultaneously allow for more lower intensity conflicts. When a nuclear monopoly exists between two states, and one state has nuclear weapons and its opponent does not, there is a greater chance of war. In contrast, when there is mutual nuclear weapon ownership with both states possessing nuclear weapons, the odds of war drop precipitously.[1]
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Didn't white men kill the native people of the West and steal their land? Didn't white men use black men as slaves to help build Western Civilization? Seems to me Western Civilization would be nowhere without the genocide of an entire culture and the enslavement of minorities who did all the hard labor.
If we are going to look at the good shouldn't we also be taking the bad into consideration as well?
We can thank the west for most of them.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Didn't white men kill the native people of the West and steal their land? Didn't white men use black men as slaves to help build Western Civilization? Seems to me Western Civilization would be nowhere without the genocide of an entire culture and the enslavement of minorities who did all the hard labor.
If we are going to look at the good shouldn't we also be taking the bad into consideration as well?
originally posted by: liveandlearn
a reply to: ATSmediaPRO
Well to this I say, perhaps the reasons blacks did not make a big impact on progress (tho it can not be denied that they made some impacts) way back is that they were kept down by us whites, not allowed education or ability to progress until...what...50 years ago. Much progress has been made in part of the black community since then, once we whites allowed it.
This man's thoughts may or may not be well intended but I think he speaks from ignorance and a limited perspective.