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originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: onequestion
It's not ok to be proud of being European or white without it being evil or racist is it??? Every single thing a white person says is racist.
I remember when pride actually meant something.
When one could be proud of a job well done or taking pride in overcoming difficult conditions or obstacles in ones existence.
You know actual accomplishments.
But noo, these days one can be proud for the accidental condition of their birth.
As though by just because of the color of their skin that they should be included in the accomplishments of all who have come before them.
What hubris, unmitigated gall, blind self aggrandizement, abject ignorance of history, culture, society!
White? Blanco please,, I'm "white" Italian, Irish & Dutch, I got a half brother that can grow an afro out to forever.
Lord know what's on the Dutch maybe some Asiatic influence from west of the Caucasus, who knows.
Point being you aint special or pure because you're "WHITE".
Now back to your vaulted Western Culture, most of Europe was a disease ridden cesspool during the dark & middle ages under the supremacy of your glorious christianity, while the middle east & west Mediterranean where heights of civilization so spare us the AB blather.
"It’s pretty close [to what I said]. What I really said was 'Western civilization' and when you describe Western civilization that can mean much of Western civilization happens to be Caucasians. But we should not apologize for our culture or our civilization," King told ABC News.
"The contributions that were made by Western civilization itself, and by Americans, by Americans of all races stand far above the rest of the world. The Western civilization and the American civilization are a superior culture."
originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I know you were not replying to me, but I would like to chime in if you don't mind.
There does seem to be a moving the goal post discussion to be had here, but why not start at the beginning? Rep. King was responding to a panel on MSNBC that was mocking the fact that the gop convention was just angry old white people. King basically defended these people, and now is being called a racists by people all over the place including by many people here on ATS.
He didn't blurt out for no people, "White people and the West are the best!" He was responding to someone criticizing old white people. Why is it not racist for MSNBC and academia, and the administration, and many others in the media to shout out all the evils of white people and the west, but if someone responds showing good things whites and the west have done, they are racist?
There are plenty of examples of people of color who did notable things and contributed to Western society. If you haven't studied them, that's not anyone else's problem.
originally posted by: onequestion
It's not ok to be proud of being European or white without it being evil or racist is it???
Every single thing a white person says is racist.
Math is a big deal but let's be honest western culture has advanced civilization more rapidly in the past 100 years then the entire world has advanced technologically in thousands of years.
Weather white people or European people (did he even make that claim or was that put in his mouth?) are solely responsible for that I honestly haven't looked at the demographics but I would assume Asians and Germans are more responsible for advancements in technology than anyone.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
No one should be "proud" to be a certain race, pride is something that should stem from something earned. You didn't earn being white, you were randomly selected.