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"Jane Roe" Asks Supreme Court To Reconsider: Update: Supreme Court Rejects Appeal

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posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 05:20 AM
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One of the reasons they cannot come out is the threats of death and act of violence perpertrated by all you well meaning "Pro Life" groups. Having been a clinic escort adn dealth with the likes of operation rescue, under any definition you fit the definition of a terrorist group. Its as simple as that.




posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by FredT
Norma McCorvey, now a born-again Christian,


I'm not too sure about this... last I heard the woman had
become Catholic and even received Holy Communion from
the pope. I think I'm going to look at this some more and
get back to ya'll on what church she now is in.

(tick tock tick tock)

Okay, I'm back. Yep. She became Catholic in 1998.
Unless she has left the Catholic Church and became a
'bible christian' ... but I haven't heard anything about that.

www.priestsforlife.org...



[edit on 1/19/2005 by FlyersFan]



posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by existence
Abortion is murder if the person who is pregnant
believes it would be to have the abortion.


No matter what the person believes, abortion ends
human life. Their disbelief in that doesn't change
that fact.

I can disbelieve in germs because I can't see them,
but the fact is that they are still there, and they will
make me sick, whether I believe in their exhistence or not.



posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by FredT
Grady, by your definition of "life killing" the treatment of cancer, or the removal of say a tumor would also fall into that definition would it not?


Fred, I think it is ridiculous to suggest that a tumor and a zygote, embryo, or fetus have any comparative relationship.



posted on Jan, 19 2005 @ 12:52 PM
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For many years it has been known that the entire abortion "right" was based on a lie. That makes perfect sense doesn't it...............

BTW, just where is the right to murder on the bill of rights anyway?



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 04:34 AM
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Update: Supreme Court Rejects Appeal



WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected a challenge to its landmark 1973 ruling legalizing abortion by the woman once known as "Jane Roe," who was at the center of the historic case.

Without comment, justices declined to hear the appeal from Norma McCorvey and thus dodged a highly charged political debate for now. McCorvey's protest of Texas' abortion ban led to the Roe v. Wade ruling establishing a constitutional right to abortion.

McCorvey, who says she now regrets her role in the decision, argued in court filings that the case should be heard again in light of evidence that
Supreme Court Rejects Appeal




posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by FredT
You assume that people are having abortions because they are too lazy or stupid to practice birth controll. Its just not that simplistic as you want to make the issue out to be :shk:


The one, single, solitary act between a man and woman, in which a child is conceived, is vaginal intercourse.

There's your choice.


It doesn't get any simpler than that.



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by quango
The one, single, solitary act between a man and woman, in which a child is conceived, is vaginal intercourse. There's your choice. It doesn't get any simpler than that.


and I repeat:

You assume that people are having abortions because they are too lazy or stupid to practice birth controll. Its just not that simplistic as you want to make the issue out to be. :shk::shk::shk:



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by FredT

and I repeat:

You assume that people are having abortions because they are too lazy or stupid to practice birth controll. Its just not that simplistic as you want to make the issue out to be. :shk::shk::shk:


53% of unintended pregnancies occur because of contraception failures, so you are right--many people are not lazy--just unfortunate. Half of those unintended pregnancies caused by contraception failures result in abortion.

I'm sure in some of these cases, contraception was being used because pregnancy was not recommended, such as the wife was a severe diabetic and could die if she became pregnant. What is a person like this to do--never get married and never have sex because there is a chance that the contraception method could fail?

It is not always black and white--anti-choice activists always paint women who have abortions as careless teenagers with no morals, but that doesn't reflect reality. There are times where precautions were taken and there is no other viable option.

(see page 28-29)
www.fda.gov...



posted on Feb, 26 2005 @ 10:18 AM
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10th Amendment

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Presumably abortion is among those powers reserved "to the people."

The court decision assumes of course that a "fetus is not a person," at least until it is born, although you can be half born and get a "partial birth abortion," which at least for the half of the baby out of the womb is basically infanticide. But of course since another half of the baby is a non person, then it has no 10th amendment rights.

All of this sounds like the Bible story of the two women who could not decide upon who should have the baby. In those kinds of stories of course the question was "shall we cut the baby in half and give one half to each of you?" When the actual mother said "no give the whole baby to the other."

Now of course in our story, instead of having millions of living human beings, we have throw aways who never obtained the opportunity to live. But of course they are not really "human," or "citizens."

I am sorry to offend people out there if that is what I am doing, but a country is totally insane that permits rampant abortion, but of course it is only a symptom of its basic economic austerity for the poor that translates into largess for the few who are rich.

There is a Republican majority now, and all the means to restore things to what they were, at least to restore to the States their 10th Amendment prerogatives protecting the full cycle of the unborn, but also including especially all support services to the mother. But that may offend those male figures who escape their responsibilities by pushing abortions, and back alley procedures.

But think of it, maybe over the past 30 years there would have been 200 back alley procedures resulting in death fo the mother, but on the other hand millions and millions of living human beings today. It all depended upon a government that gave you Tuskeegee, MKULTRA, and the glorious right to destroy your future for expediency in the present. What a wonderful country it is, safeguarding such sacrosanct things as economic scarcity and impossible odds for successful human lives. That is the bottom line, among other ka chings on the cash register that our country has far too often for a heart.

What a tricky thing that 10th Amendment is.



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