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I am not dismissing the thought because it IS possible
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
If you look at the statistics I provide, you are also 3 times more likely to be pulled over if you are black, vs. white drivers.
Which makes sense - because blacks are more than 3 times more likely to commit serious crime.
What if that crime statistic is directly tied to the fact they are targeted more by police?
originally posted by: AnonymousStateCollege
a reply to: yuppa
Christopher Dorner: Navy
Micah Johnson: Army
Gavin Long: Marines
Air Force is up to bat...
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
I am not dismissing the thought because it IS possible
That is all that is required to engage in a discussion with BLM and others. I don't think things would have gone as far as it has if we were willing to talk to people that have certain grievances, and not dismiss them outright.
But we didn't talk to them. When they said blacklivesmatter, we dismissed it by saying alllivesmatter. Then we wonder why they might just be pissed off.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
I am not dismissing the thought because it IS possible
That is all that is required to engage in a discussion with BLM and others. I don't think things would have gone as far as it has if we were willing to talk to people that have certain grievances, and not dismiss them outright.
But we didn't talk to them. When they said blacklivesmatter, we dismissed it by saying alllivesmatter. Then we wonder why they might just be pissed off.
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
I am not dismissing the thought because it IS possible
That is all that is required to engage in a discussion with BLM and others. I don't think things would have gone as far as it has if we were willing to talk to people that have certain grievances, and not dismiss them outright.
But we didn't talk to them. When they said blacklivesmatter, we dismissed it by saying alllivesmatter. Then we wonder why they might just be pissed off.
But they shouldn't be pissed off by alllivesmatter. All includes black, but does not exlude non-black. It is inclusive and dismisses no one. It makes me wonder if they are pissed because white lives matter too or because their personal grudge is expanded to make it universal.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
I am not dismissing the thought because it IS possible
That is all that is required to engage in a discussion with BLM and others. I don't think things would have gone as far as it has if we were willing to talk to people that have certain grievances, and not dismiss them outright.
But we didn't talk to them. When they said blacklivesmatter, we dismissed it by saying alllivesmatter. Then we wonder why they might just be pissed off.
originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: Gryphon66
No they weren't... The study you keep referring to refers only to population, not normalized population based on crime rates.
Jaden
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
I am not dismissing the thought because it IS possible
That is all that is required to engage in a discussion with BLM and others. I don't think things would have gone as far as it has if we were willing to talk to people that have certain grievances, and not dismiss them outright.
But we didn't talk to them. When they said blacklivesmatter, we dismissed it by saying alllivesmatter. Then we wonder why they might just be pissed off.
But they shouldn't be pissed off by alllivesmatter. All includes black, but does not exlude non-black. It is inclusive and dismisses no one. It makes me wonder if they are pissed because white lives matter too or because their personal grudge is expanded to make it universal.
What is offensive is that time and again, the death of blacks is treated completely differently than the death of whites by the police and the media. If a black man is shot by the police, the media will scrounge up a picture of the victim looking "gansta." If a white college boy commits a rape or murder, they publish his graduation portrait. We hear all about a black victim's police record, but we are never made privy to the complaints filed about the policeman doing the shooting.
Pretending that this is not happening is precisely the reason why the movement is trying to raise the public consciousness. Calling peaceful protesters "terrorists," and falsely associating members of known hate groups like the New Black Panthers with the BLM movement is part of a deliberate campaign to spread hatred and fear. There are groups who are actively trying to incite a race war. BLM is not one of them.
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
I am not dismissing the thought because it IS possible
That is all that is required to engage in a discussion with BLM and others. I don't think things would have gone as far as it has if we were willing to talk to people that have certain grievances, and not dismiss them outright.
But we didn't talk to them. When they said blacklivesmatter, we dismissed it by saying alllivesmatter. Then we wonder why they might just be pissed off.
But they shouldn't be pissed off by alllivesmatter. All includes black, but does not exlude non-black. It is inclusive and dismisses no one. It makes me wonder if they are pissed because white lives matter too or because their personal grudge is expanded to make it universal.
What is offensive is that time and again, the death of blacks is treated completely differently than the death of whites by the police and the media. If a black man is shot by the police, the media will scrounge up a picture of the victim looking "gansta." If a white college boy commits a rape or murder, they publish his graduation portrait. We hear all about a black victim's police record, but we are never made privy to the complaints filed about the policeman doing the shooting.
Pretending that this is not happening is precisely the reason why the movement is trying to raise the public consciousness. Calling peaceful protesters "terrorists," and falsely associating members of known hate groups like the New Black Panthers with the BLM movement is part of a deliberate campaign to spread hatred and fear. There are groups who are actively trying to incite a race war. BLM is not one of them.
originally posted by: LSU0408
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
I am not dismissing the thought because it IS possible
That is all that is required to engage in a discussion with BLM and others. I don't think things would have gone as far as it has if we were willing to talk to people that have certain grievances, and not dismiss them outright.
But we didn't talk to them. When they said blacklivesmatter, we dismissed it by saying alllivesmatter. Then we wonder why they might just be pissed off.
Why someone that hears "black lives matter" be ok to get pissed off? The way I see it, all lives have mattered since most of us were born. Yesterday, a guy on Twitter said that all lives matter is untrue because is leaves out black people. I pasted the definition of "all" and asked him why black had to stand out. He never wrote me back. All lives have mattered for decades and there was never any reason to change that and single out one race or group of people.