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*****Republican National Convention thread. Let the games begin.*****

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posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

From what I've seen with Mr. Trump over his career, there really are only two options: either it will go exceptionally well or horrendously bad.

There's no middle with Trump.


Now THIS I agree with. Its feast or famine with Trump. If its a hit, its a HUGE hit with him. A epic hit. But if it fails, its a major disaster. I do think Trump is capable of great things for America. But I'm not blinded by the fact that its also possible that he could do us some harm too. But hey, this goes with pretty much every President Candidate from the beginning.




posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

From what I've seen with Mr. Trump over his career, there really are only two options: either it will go exceptionally well or horrendously bad.

There's no middle with Trump.


Obviously the Republican party will never be the same. idk if that's good or bad....they did it to themselves however.

RIP RNC



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: olaru12

im amazed by how Paul Ryan has to begrudgingly approve of Trump, it cracks me up.

maybe I should start my own thread about this, sorry for drift.



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

From what I've seen with Mr. Trump over his career, there really are only two options: either it will go exceptionally well or horrendously bad.

There's no middle with Trump.


Obviously the Republican party will never be the same. idk if that's good or bad....they did it to themselves however.

RIP RNC


I think that is reaching a bit. This Trump phenomena will be long gone one way or another. Whether if its him in office for four years, or him losing in the election to Hillary. Either way, it'll be back to business as usual for the Republican party. This entire election has been odd on both sides of the coin. In other words, I don't see this being the norm going forward in future elections if that is what you and others think.



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: olaru12

im amazed by how Paul Ryan has to begrudgingly approve of Trump, it cracks me up.

maybe I should start my own thread about this, sorry for drift.



How do you know hes "begrudgingly" approving Trump? Have you talked to him? People are allowed to change their minds and stances you know. You don't have to like someone if you work with them, but you still do for the sake of the team. So to me, Paul Ryan is doing this for the sake of the Republican party to unite them. I fully think that Paul Ryan believes that a Trump/Pence ticket is in the best interest of America. If he didn't, this wouldn't be approved by him.
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posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: desert




I wish I could give you good news, but I can't. The future? It's not up to me, I'll be dead. It's you young people who have to take back power from corporations and billionaires. Get corporate money and billionaire influence out of Washington. In fact, get it out of your states, while you're at it. It won't be easy, but fighting of this magnitude never is.


Therein lies the crux of the matter. Politics is just an entertaining diversion. Reminded me of this...


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posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Gryphon66

We hate socialist ,hippie, terrorist ,leaders maybe?


Hippie? really? Hello 1972.


I'm sorry, what are you responding to Cav?


Hello the same people that were saying' Damn the Man' during that era are the man in this era.

Or a woman running for the President of the United States.

That lacks any morals,ethics, and character.

And in stead of 'FREE' love it's FREE everything.

Of course 'affordable' is the word they use because for some odd reason only Sanders was the only one that could come out and say it.



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:03 PM
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Any chance you'll run for POTUS?


Oh hell no! I know enough to know that I don't know enough to hold such a position.


I agree with every line you wrote there. (Which is scary.)


I know, right?

Whodathunkit?

 


Here's part of the problem:

Corruption and greed have become so entrenched within every level of every government in the world that if we were to suddenly remove everyone involved in any sort of shady dealings, we'd have no government left. Anywhere

That scenario plays out in worse ways than in continuing on in the same direction we've been headed for so long.

What we need to do is find a way to work within the current system and make the kinds of changes which would inhibit the degree of corruption that is inherent in the system.

There are so many problems we face as a species which aren't being addressed because we are all so busy chasing our tails regarding one political ideology or another that we do not look up long enough to see what's going on all around us.

We have technologies that are not in use right now (and I'm not even talking about black budget secret tech here) which could improve the lives of so many people, but instead less efficient means are held on to because they provide continued avenues of control and the ability to prop up those who keep the energy of power flowing.

Where are those technology gaps? What can we do to close them and take greater steps as a country?

Kennedy challenged us to go to the moon, we need something of a similar scale with which to capture the imaginations of the people at large. Give them a way to contribute to such a goal and you will be amazed at how much buy in there is from the average person.

Conversely, there are dangers we face and mitigations plans have been discussed but are not acted upon because of the short term thinking of most people. What happens if another Carrington event occurs with how dependent we are upon electronic communication?

Would the grid survive? We don't really know. We hope it would, but considering certain measures that have been discussed are not being implemented, I am likely to think that we would be in a world of hurt and everyone would be asking, "why didn't someone do something when we had the chance," if they even comprehend that there are measures we could take right now which would alleviate such an outcome.



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:04 PM
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So, if it's the same people who in 1972 were "hippies" logically (according to Cav's logic, anyway) they should be supporting HRC who's apparently just a big hippie?

Also, if I recall correctly, most "hippies" were in favor of communal sharing of EVERYTHING.

Seems to me, the metaphor fails on most levels.

I'd guess that the people we're talking about, rather, are the Gordon Gekko "Greed is good!" folks from the 80s who even after 35 years are still "temporarily embarrassed millionaires."

Not all, but some. The authentic hippies I know hate Trump as much if not more than Clinton.

Distrust of "the Establishment" at any level is their hallmark.

In my opinion.
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posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
I wish the Greens and Libertarians would start working at the Grass Roots level though. My opinion.


No, Gryph, it is not just an opinion, it is the truth, and that's my opinion, well, not really, because that's how governmentally it has to happen. I think that this is the only way a third party can be viable at the national level. It would have to gain power from the bottom up to prove it can govern nationally.

Who knows, maybe the GOP will just rebrand and rename themselves into another party. That might be a way to shake off their problem (of trying to be the party for the wealthy with a non-wealthy base).



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I agree on the POTUS gig ... I don't really trust anyone who would take the job.

The rest of what you said. Right on the money. Maybe we don't disagree after all.



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: -Blackout-

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

From what I've seen with Mr. Trump over his career, there really are only two options: either it will go exceptionally well or horrendously bad.

There's no middle with Trump.


Now THIS I agree with. Its feast or famine with Trump. If its a hit, its a HUGE hit with him. A epic hit. But if it fails, its a major disaster. I do think Trump is capable of great things for America. But I'm not blinded by the fact that its also possible that he could do us some harm too. But hey, this goes with pretty much every President Candidate from the beginning.
heeeey
what do you respect as a alternative to Trump?? Hillary 4 PRISON@@@???? NO WAY WE ARE FREAKING DONE



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: desert

originally posted by: Gryphon66
I wish the Greens and Libertarians would start working at the Grass Roots level though. My opinion.


No, Gryph, it is not just an opinion, it is the truth, and that's my opinion, well, not really, because that's how governmentally it has to happen. I think that this is the only way a third party can be viable at the national level. It would have to gain power from the bottom up to prove it can govern nationally.

Who knows, maybe the GOP will just rebrand and rename themselves into another party. That might be a way to shake off their problem (of trying to be the party for the wealthy with a non-wealthy base).


Yep. It has to happen at the local level FIRST. Folks on Mainstreet need to see that there aren't only TWO ways to look at the world, that, for example, someone can be for fiscal conservatism and social liberalism ... and they need to be reminded, DESPERATELY REMINDED, that the real power in this country is supposed to reside in US ... not the banks, not the Democrats/Republicans, not the churches, etc.

US. The US. There's a reason for the acronym.



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:21 PM
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Maybe we don't disagree after all.


Oh, I'm sure there are plenty of areas in which we would not see eye to eye but that isn't really important at the moment.

We were given freedoms by the founding fathers that are unique in human history. We should be utilizing those freedoms to think of better ways to do things rather constantly than tearing down the work of others. We are all on the same planet after all and sooner or later an event (solar flare, super volcano, space rock, uncontrollable virus, etc) completely outside our control could either wipe us out or set us back thousands of years.

These are the issues which should be front and center on the national and international stage but they aren't. Instead we are treated to an endless parade of clowns juggling, animal trainers, and acrobatic rhetoric which effectively keep everyone's attention from those elephants in the room.

It is only a mater of time before something of such a scale happens as to potentially render all of our arguments moot.

Any remaining in the wake of such an event will surely curse us for not acting while we had the chance.



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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Seems to me, the metaphor fails on most levels.


The only fail here has been done by CLinton.



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Yep.




posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

lol And the joke about the "the haves and the have-mores" being the GOP base? Only it really wasn't a joke.
Sadly, remember The Selling of the President 1968 by Joe McGinniss.? "classic of campaign reporting that first introduced many readers to the stage-managed world of political theater."

And that's why I was truly disappointed in the RNC convention this time. It's not even well stage-managed political theater! Which does not bode well for governing.



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:49 PM
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In light of recent events.

Trump critics can get off their pedestals look down on the evil righties.

Hillary Invites Mother Of Michael Brown and others to speak at DNC

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posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: desert
a reply to: olaru12

lol And the joke about the "the haves and the have-mores" being the GOP base? Only it really wasn't a joke.
Sadly, remember The Selling of the President 1968 by Joe McGinniss.? "classic of campaign reporting that first introduced many readers to the stage-managed world of political theater."

And that's why I was truly disappointed in the RNC convention this time. It's not even well stage-managed political theater! Which does not bode well for governing.


Yeah, I know what you mean....It's just not the same without Sarah. Those were the good ole days eh?



posted on Jul, 20 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
In light of recent events.

Trump critics can get off their pedestals look down on the evil righties.

Hillary Invites Mother Of Michael Brown and others to speak at DNC


She might as well invite BLM in its entirety and have a cop bashing thug party. Because I bet that will be part of the overall theme at the DNC. I bet a lot of BLM will be there regardless though. Hillary is a harborer of terrorists. This is clear.



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