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If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple For which one of you, when he wants to build a tower, does not first sit down and calculate the cost to see if he has enough to complete it?
originally posted by: Akragon
originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: Akragon
Correct my friend
Do you leave the something else undefined, or use teachings of Jesus to define it?
Yes... Knowing i don't belong in this screwed up world... But i make the best of what i've been given
I do tend to use his words to define it... Though they are vague on what it might actually be
originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: pthena
. . .
I always believed that Jesus was for everyone and the entire premise of salvation was simply a misunderstanding of the Christian Church. I don't believe Jesus wanted all of this craziness in his name.
So you want to pick and choose which parts of what he said suit your beliefs and discard the rest?
Where have I heard that before?
As far as the OP is concerned. I don't believe every word in the Bible is God-breathed, but mans paraphrase. Did Christ actually say those things, in the context that's given? I don't know and there's no way for me to know. All I do know, is that certain things resonate and others don't. That's my compass. It's human, but I am who I am, until He says otherwise.
The same way most believe that they do... belong
22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’
1 Corintians 15:13But if there is no resurrection of the dead, neither has Christ been raised. 14If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain, and your faith also is in vain. 15Yes, we are found false witnesses of God, because we testified about God that he raised up Christ, whom he didn't raise up, if it is so that the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead aren't raised, neither has Christ been raised. 17If Christ has not been raised, your faith is vain; you are still in your sins. 18Then they also who are fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If we have only hoped in Christ in this life, we are of all men most pitiable.
originally posted by: blueman12
jesus may have been something special. However, he was extemly naive. His teachings have only brought chaos. Despite his miracles, he was still a fool.
@OP: The best thing Jesus ever said was his repeat of the golden rule.
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I find this very wise since this is a perfect example of loving the potential of a soul to do good but sometimes hating the corruption humanity have created.