Cleveland Police Ask For Emergency Suspension Of Open Carry Laws During Republican Convention

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: gwynnhwyfar
If enough of them die, they may stop volunteering to do such dangerous jobs, an then your protection will be gone as well as mine.

Really? How did New York City survive prior to 1845?

Thinking the police are going to 'protect' you is a bit naïve, they are not omnipresent. The private citizen's first line of defense should be themselves.

At large events like this one, they are most definitely required to be present. As a private citizen, I can choose not to attend, but they can't.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Metallicus

The cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge carried (and were better trained than you), but that didn't help them, did it? What makes you so sure it will help you?

Sounds like this was an ambush. Remember, cops go toward the problem, not away from it, just like fire fighters and first responders.

a reply to: Sillyolme

BLM is a militant group?

YEP.

Think of it as BLM is the terrorist arm of the left wing political party.

As Sunni Wahhabists is the terrorist arm of Islam.

a reply to: queenofswords

Shouldn't matter. Guns are supposed to solve the problem.

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Sillyolme

Only the ones with metal points on the ends.

But that would have ruined the punchline.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: kaylaluv

The cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge carried (and were better trained than you), but that didn't help them, did it? What makes you so sure it will help you?

I hope you are not suggesting that snipers target innocent civilians at a long distance.

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting. Everyone who owns a gun is polite and only shoots according to acceptable gun etiquette.

a reply to: DBCowboy

And no one is calling a curfew. I just asked how that would be different.
Obviously there's some contagion of abboration going on with copy cats around the country wanting to be a part of the trend. Nut jobs who aren't afraid to die. Maybe a bit of caution isn't such a bad thing.

whats the moral of the story for blacks who think they fall under the umbrella of the constitutional rights... yup. thats right, you guessed it.

*****asterisks*****

a reply to: Sillyolme

You call it a little caution.

I call it suspension of rights.

It's hard to believe that given our current environment, anybody would think this was other than a good idea.

Who was the military guy who went to Katrina and got things under control? He was on the news a little while ago, and he said to permit guns at the convention is the stupidest thing he's ever heard.

Me too.

*Commander Russell Honore.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sillyolme

You call it a little caution.

I call it suspension of rights.

Call it whatever you want. I call it common sense.

It's sad people support a suspension of any rights at all.

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: kaylaluv

The cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge carried (and were better trained than you), but that didn't help them, did it? What makes you so sure it will help you?

I hope you are not suggesting that snipers target innocent civilians at a long distance.

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting. Everyone who owns a gun is polite and only shoots according to acceptable gun etiquette.

99% of them are and do.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Metallicus

The cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge carried (and were better trained than you), but that didn't help them, did it? What makes you so sure it will help you?

In my scenario I have a chance to defend myself. In your scenario I am dead.

originally posted by: gwynnhwyfar
At large events like this one, they are most definitely required to be present. As a private citizen, I can choose not to attend, but they can't.

The convention is an exception, the majority of the time they are not standing guard.

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Metallicus

The cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge carried (and were better trained than you), but that didn't help them, did it? What makes you so sure it will help you?

In my scenario I have a chance to defend myself. In your scenario I am dead.

Or shot in the back of the head by some idiot you never see.

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Metallicus

The cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge carried (and were better trained than you), but that didn't help them, did it? What makes you so sure it will help you?

In my scenario I have a chance to defend myself. In your scenario I am dead.

Or shot in the back of the head by some idiot you never see.

Don't worry, it's only 1%, so it doesn't really matter.

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Metallicus

The cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge carried (and were better trained than you), but that didn't help them, did it? What makes you so sure it will help you?

In my scenario I have a chance to defend myself. In your scenario I am dead.

Or shot in the back of the head by some idiot you never see.

Don't worry, it's only 1%, so it doesn't really matter.

Yeah, it's kind of hard to remember that these days.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I couldn't care less actually.
My question is still how is it different from establishing a temporary curfew?

What do y'all think would've happened if the original suspect in the Dallas attack tried to take out the real shooter with the AR-15 he was carrying?