Cleveland Police Ask For Emergency Suspension Of Open Carry Laws During Republican Convention

a reply to: reldra

This is a state law there. Not a federal law. not all states allow Open Carry. So, this case is not really a constitutional matter.

Correct. At his own discretion, I believe the governor can suspend open carry especially if it's a a public safety issue, considering the type and scale of the event.

And it is a public safety issue.

This is the concerning part:

"We are sending a letter to Gov. Kasich requesting assistance from him. He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something -- I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point," Stephen Loomis, president of Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, told CNN.

CNN [emphasis added]

a reply to: Bobaganoosh

Federal police to manage the suspension of rights.

Looks like the thought police are setting up their excuses for the failures that are about to happen.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The seeds have been planted and TPTB are watching the garden grow. A time will come when the crops will be harvested and what plant that doesn't want to give or produce any fruit will be plowed under.

a reply to: Liquesence

Whether state or federal, it is a suspension of individual rights.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
I hope the police there decide to boycott the convention. Let everyone shoot each other up while they stay safe in their living rooms watching it on TV.

Your true hope chest is open.

Many people are rubbing their hands.

originally posted by: NewzNose

They can go work in the wonderful world of fast food if the do not want to answer the call to do their jobs.

And that's probably going to start happening more and more. Can't blame 'em.

originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: kaylaluv

Their jobs are to police, you understand this? And no one made then take the job.

They can go work in the wonderful world of fast food if the do not want to answer the call to do their jobs.

I know so many LEOs. Most are great people. They contribute to their communities, don't have a racist bone in their body, and are proud to serve to keep their local community safe and protected.

No. They didn't have to choose that as their job, but they did. It's a thankless job in some cities and neighborhoods. They get spit on, called every vile name you can imagine, disrespected, and taunted. I'm sure that daily grind wears some of them down.

But, we should stand beside them, and lift them up while they are feeling this pain and facing these terrorists. We should stand with their families and reject the atmosphere that demonizes their jobs. I hate what is happening to them right now and I spit on the un-American hate-mongers doing this to them and us.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Liquesence

Whether state or federal, it is a suspension of individual rights.

The right to open carry is granted by state law.

Not the constitution.

ETA:
Yes, it would be a temporary suspension of the right to open carry, which is a public safety issue considering the event and the venue.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Looks like the thought police are setting up their excuses for the failures that are about to happen.

I'd say the object police just got a whole lot more brazen.

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Liquesence

Whether state or federal, it is a suspension of individual rights.

The right to open carry is granted by state law.

Not the constitution.

ETA:
Yes, it would be a temporary suspension of the right to open carry, which is a public safety issue considering the event and the venue.

True.

And you bring up a good point.

What the government grants, it can also take away.

Which is why I am suspect of anything that the government "grants" us.

a reply to: xuenchen

Awwww, what are we worried about. An armed society is a polite society, right? That's what they keep telling me. I'm sure everyone at this convention will be as polite as church ladies.

Two things:

The globalist elites want mayhem and lawlessness. They will either:
-federalize the police in our country or
-use the mayhem to send in the UN peacekeepers.

The BLM and other militant groups are being used as tools and funded by outsiders. The rank and file of these groups are too ill-informed to understand it. They are being told they are doing it for a righteous cause, and they buy into it.

a reply to: DBCowboy

What the government grants, it can also take away.

Which is why I am suspect of anything that the government "grants" us.

Yes.

Considering how volatile things are right now, I think that would be advisable to temporarily suspend open carry at least within the Cleveland city limits or a few miles radius around the Arena, if it can be legally done.

The problem I have is what the president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, told CNN: "I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point."

THAT is what bothers me a great deal.

a reply to: queenofswords

The BLM and other militant groups are being used as tools and funded by outsiders.

And our government has a long sorted history of playing both sides against the middle.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Why don't they just bring in the national guard to protect the convention?

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: DBCowboy

Why don't they just bring in the national guard to protect the convention?

Cheers - Dave

Prolly because they don't want any more Kent states.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: xuenchen

Awwww, what are we worried about. An armed society is a polite society, right? That's what they keep telling me. I'm sure everyone at this convention will be as polite as church ladies.

LOL

You were the one saying "Let everyone shoot each other up".

Rub your hands harder.

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: DBCowboy

Why don't they just bring in the national guard to protect the convention?

Cheers - Dave

Governor has to okay it.

Kasich probably wants a disaster.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
I hope the police there decide to boycott the convention. Let everyone shoot each other up while they stay safe in their living rooms watching it on TV.

Perfect opportunity to say....you're fired.
Sorry couldn't help it.
Carry on...