explosions and gunfire at Incirlik airbase.

a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

If relations with Turkey turn sour Putin is in a position to become a dominant force in the ME because unlike us he will have their leaders on side. I am wondering through all this just how pro-russia Erdogan actually is.

a reply to: sg1642
if true..kinda puts a new slant on things.

a reply to: sg1642

Like I said... perfect timing.

Full moon, cardinal cross, Trump pulling ahead in the elections and Brexit.

Europe needs an enemy, I've been saying it since the day the Brit's vote out.

a reply to: onequestion

They aren't sitting ducks. Like I have already said the first hint of hostile action directed at that site will bring about catastrophic consequences for Erdogan. Do you not think the US has intelligence sources within the Turkish government and military?

a reply to: sg1642

I don't know but I know for sure we can't under estimate anyone ever.

We did that in Afghanistan and look how that turned out.

a reply to: autopat51

Dare I say it..that might actually be a good thing for the people of the Middle East? No?

a reply to: onequestion
france has been pushed very hard...wonder if they will be the first to crack?

a reply to: rigel4

Bring it on😂.I live in Pennsylvania. First get past the hunters. Then deal with rest of us.
Also think of the millions billions the U.S. dumps to the Turkish Cronies. Willing to give that up Erdagon?

Poster I'm not barking at you 👍

a reply to: sg1642
could be..i wonder if the dust will be allowed to settle.

a reply to: autopat51

No chance. His removal of the judicial system is evidence of this. Erdagon is acting paranoid. He wants a dynasty.

Erdagon needs to go😊

a reply to: Bigburgh

Maybe he wants a Caliphate?

a reply to: onequestion

Isn't his son involved with ISIS oil... hang on I need to check
www.rt.com...
observer.com...



As a general rule here at ATS, I don't fully go with RT.
But there are several news sources to this issue.

Much respect to onequestion 😊

a reply to: onequestion

ultimately the reason Turkey is an ally (in my opinion) is to give western governments a foothold in the Middle East. Our position in the ME is about natural resources and always has been. For that reason I don't see western governments giving up alliance with Turkey easily. Erdogan will probably use that to his advantage. If he does want to reshape things there for better or worse I see a blind eye being turned towards him doing so. Look at Saudi Arabia. Pretty barbaric things happen there and America is still sharing a bed with them. If Erdogan was to turn his back on the US and start looking east Putin would welcome him with open arms. At that point I would see a coup happening and this time it wouldn't fail because it would have CIA support. That's my view on it anyway.

I think the U.S. is going to learn a lesson about why it should be more isolationist soon.

Britain realized it and bailed out of the E.U. before too much damage was done.

A country can't use it's people and resources to produce goods to be sold overseas and elsewhere when the people can no longer afford to participate in the economy.

This is all a bankers game.

a reply to: sg1642

Is it natural resources, Isreal or something else?

a reply to: Bigburgh
true..isnt it funny how the moment he set foot back in turkey..he had a list.
he knew every bad guy immediately.

a reply to: autopat51

No, I think he just pulled a Stalin and purged all of those who he thought may have wanted to remain more secular.

If that's the case it's gonna be a mighty big caliphate.

a reply to: Bigburgh

They are very close to Iran, and have ties with IS.

Not good. Hopefully this blows over.

a reply to: onequestion

Natural resources. That is the end game in the Middle East. Do you think anyone would give a # if they weren't sitting on top of oil and gas?

Anyway back to the air base to avoid derailing someone's thread. I don't see any kind of hostile action being carried out against US forces there if I'm honest. There has been no report of any kind of attack or exchange of fire. Only the sounds of gunfire. The whole country probably sounds like that just now. It must be a tense situation there but not as dangerous as it looks.

a reply to: sg1642

Yes I do.

Many of the power brokers are religious zealots and dark occultist there's more at play than just it simply being resources.

Why do you think Rothchild zionist controlled Isreal was installed in the holy land after the Rothchild banking empire funded world wars?