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explosions and gunfire at Incirlik airbase.

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posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: sg1642

With F-16s and at least one KC-135 flying out of Incirlik, it makes more sense that they were going after forces involved in the coup, rather than US forces.




posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:34 PM
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the base is used by both turkish military and us and

The coup F-16s were reportedly fueled by KC135R refueling tanker aircraft from incirlik Air Base

and turkish gov closed electricity to a base where nukes are stored.
gunfire and explosions reported.

someone on the base says "explosions" were sonic booms from jets leaving the base.

doesnt sound good - hopefully its just sonic booms. but what about the gunfire ?



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:37 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

That's what I would imagine to be the case. Still a brave move with foreign nationals and equipment on the base.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:40 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Agreed about the fact that failure speaks to no US involvement, particularly with Turkey. Had there been US involvement, British, or even Russian; they would have laid hands on E pretty quickly even if he was out of country.

The nukes at Incirlik are a concern, I don't doubt the military's capability to evacuate or de-militarize the bombs, however I do doubt the US political leaderships judgement to give them the order.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: glowdog
the base is used by both turkish military and us and

The coup F-16s were reportedly fueled by KC135R refueling tanker aircraft from incirlik Air Base

and turkish gov closed electricity to a base where nukes are stored.
gunfire and explosions reported.

someone on the base says "explosions" were sonic booms from jets leaving the base.

doesnt sound good - hopefully its just sonic booms. but what about the gunfire ?


Indeedl, what about that?



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: jefwane

If it gets bad enough, my money is on the local commander doing it, and telling them he did it later.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:43 PM
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Seen something about dependents being moved stateside or to other posts a few months ago, don't know how accurate that report is though. Report accurate about dependents gone since april.


Right, I read that too, isn't that interesting?
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posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:46 PM
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If the country is going through a coup or even the aftermath of one it stands to reason there will be gunfire to be heard. Note there are reports of the 'sounds' of gunfire not actual exchanges of fire on the perimeter etc.
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posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:47 PM
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From a previous posted link.

The nukes are a political tool. Hopefully it won't backfire.


Such a relaxed posture makes clear just how little NATO relies on tactical nuclear weapons for its defense anymore. In fact, the readiness of NATO's nuclear forces now is measured in months as opposed to hours or days.

Supposedly, the weapons are still deployed as a matter of deterrence, but the crux of deterrence is sustaining an aggressor's perception of guaranteed rapid reprisal--a perception the nuclear bombs deployed in Turkey cannot significantly add to because they are unable to be rapidly launched. Aggressors are more likely to be deterred by NATO's conventional power or the larger strategic forces supporting its nuclear umbrella.

Roadblocks to removal.

In 2005, when NATO's top commander at the time, Gen. James L. Jones, supported the elimination of U.S. nuclear weapons in Europe, he was met with fierce political resistance.

In particular, they argue that the weapons are "an essential political and military link" between NATO members and help maintain alliance cohesion. The Defense Department's 2008 report on nuclear weapons management concurred: "As long as our allies value [the nuclear weapons'] political contribution, the United States is obligated to provide and maintain the nuclear weapon capability."



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:48 PM
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Intelligence agencies will probably know more about what is going on in Turkey than the Turks themselves. For something like this to happen there will have been chatter picked up and no doubt informants will have been talking. Add to that the recent terror attacks etc. It makes sense.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: sg1642
a reply to: Stormdancer777

Intelligence agencies will probably know more about what is going on in Turkey than the Turks themselves. For something like this to happen there will have been chatter picked up and no doubt informants will have been talking. Add to that the recent terror attacks etc. It makes sense.


yes I agree



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: johnnyjoe1979

UNLESS that is the idea in the first place, they are fine.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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The supposition in the past was that there would never be an internal domestic threat of a dominant armed takeover of Nukes....yes it was a recognised and aleviated contingency but never a serious consideration beyond SOP coverage.

Terrorism has changed everything now because it is a Global Threat to all non-muslims meaning they are sanctioned to do anything to take Nukes from any country and it seems many places are attainable targets.This could be terrorists trying to get at Nukes.

Hopefully there are enough American contingency forces there to hold the line.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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Erdogan is threatening war wth the Unites States..lol
Out of Nato for sure now.


Then maybe a wee invitation to Ivan lol



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
Wow.

These people are poking the wrong cage.



I have my doubts the left or our leftist government will care very much.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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There is speculation that the airbase has become a political football connected to Erdogan's request for the extradition of religious leader Fethullah Gulen, in exile in the US, and thought by Erdogan to have been the man behind the failed military coup.

Gulen has denied involvement and condemed the coup, and Secretary Kerry has said that the US would only consider extradition if evidence of Gulen's involvement in the coup were supplied by Turkey.

That doesn't seem like a tall order in a country that just arrested 3000 judges.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 07:55 PM
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Is anyone missing the fact that 3000 judges probably had nothing to do with the coup? A country doesn't purge 3000 judges unless someone is planning to tear up the laws of the land in the near future.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 08:09 PM
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Absolutely. The military clique that attempted the coup were reputed to be secularists, as is Fethullah Gulen. Erdogan is giving evidence of leaning toward "sharia" in Turkey. It is possible that he has given up the idea of joining the EU. There are a lot of vectors to resolve here but I think it is possible that Erdogan will have to tighten security very strongly in Turkey to avoid being bounced out by someone.

Personally, I think it is possible that this coup was NATO backed.
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posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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NATO operation to remove an unruly, brazen ,ISIS corrupt leader unwiiling to play ball
OR Desperate attempt by Erdogan to solidify and extend power now that his chances of EU member ship has reached zero.
imo Fracturing relations with NATO's top dog surely would not be in the plans.
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posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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False flag operations can have people killed. Also, the USA isn't the only one to come up with false flag attacks, false flag doesn't have to always include 'Murcia.



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