explosions and gunfire at Incirlik airbase.

a reply to: Bigburgh

Oh I'm nice to them of course.

It was just kind of a culture shock a lot of them coming from Syria and everything.

Also they don't vet them so it's like a crap shoot on weather or not we're getting normal with crazies mixed in or not.

Now Armenia is demanding their president step down and hostages taken? Reddit Live Link

a reply to: earthling42

It could be. The "false flag" operation is almost the trademark of the last half century.

Incidentally, the BBC is putting out a television play based on the novel, The Secret Agent by the Polish/English literary master, Joseph Conrad. I will be very interested to see how they handle the original material, because in Conrad's novel, a "false flag" operation is instigated by an "agent" of a European power that is upset with the English government because it will not adopt draconian measures to combat opposition political movements like the ones active on "the continent".

This foreign power manufactures an attempt to blow up the Greenwich Observatory, which is to be blamed on anarchists in England and hence to compel the British government to crack down on deviationist political elements, including some on the run from the European mainland who have found sanctuary in England.

The novel also deals with the lives of innocents who are caught up in and become the collateral damage caused by these machinations. The plight of the agent's wife Winnie Verloc and her stoic, self sacrificing mother, is depicted in some of the most emotionally evocative writing in all of literature.

The bottom line, though, is that a very able detective in the Metropolitan Police Force and a shrewd government minister get to the bottom of the plot and frustrate the designs of the European power on the regulation of English society.

Suffice it to say, that today we live in a situation that is almost the complete reverse of the one portrayed by Conrad. Government has done a 180 degree turn for the worse. It will be interesting to see if the BBC is faithful to the real message of Conrad's book, or substitutes a naive interpretation of it, concentrating only on the mischief done by political malcontents and the "obvious" need to clamp down on them.

Erdogan trying to steal US nukes?

Erdogan is officially a bond villain it seems.

Erdogan is officially DOG.

This guy is insane...

If someone doesn't stop this madman there will be a mushroom cloud over Damascus.

Lots of tweets now on the reopening of this base and operations resumed.

originally posted by: earthling42
Lots of tweets now on the reopening of this base and operations resumed.

The Base probably saw its Hay days back in the middle eastern crisis of the 1960's.
So are you expecting a Renaissance in the ME theater?

when your blue press stigmatized putsch, bloody coup, massacre, etc. Aborigines is trying to rebel against the regime of tyranny and the most is a regime of people. when a word velvet or great revolution to overthrow the anti-people regime, the dictator in power=this is a bloody coup and massacres allegedly against the dictator and in fact against the Aboriginal people and their even greater enslavement and if your press not calls them terrorists, then it's your people failed to bring about regime change on even more bad for the Turks

a reply to: mangust69

There is something not right about the coup. It seems more like an excuse to consolidate power and to "purge" enemies of Erdogan than a real coup.

a reply to: Xcathdra staging? you go on the death for staging ? and they are not idiots and despite the blue media Muslims have the instinct of self-preservation is not less than yours

Some insight into whats happening around Incirlik, with 90 b61 (dial a yield) nukes.. search for Gulen and Subud. then realize Subud is in the white house via Obama and Jarrett. Stanley Ann brought it from malaysia, she was a alpha agency worker... Subud, via fuddy, managed Obamas BO.
enough of that, here is a review of Gulen by Edmonds and Corbett and his role in the coup attempt:
www.youtube.com...

summary..Gulen is a front, but the Subud empire is enormous, billions to extend its reach around the world, and the biggest covert front is in the white house.

over and out

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: mangust69

There is something not right about the coup. It seems more like an excuse to consolidate power and to "purge" enemies of Erdogan than a real coup.

↑ This here!

I suspect the coupe was merely a ploy of Erdogan to ramp up his power and remove his enemies. They will bring back the death penalty to remove these obstacles permanently.

The world just got allot more ..... "interesting", if not scary.

a reply to: Bearack

I would say that he is in a much more adventagious position to secure a true Caliphate than ISIS.

In biblical prophecy Russia will eventually raid Turkey

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: earthling42

At least they stopped airstrikes on Syria, for the time being. Power is out , too. The base is cut off, omg the highest alert status. Guess why??

Turkish authorities told the U.S. they were closing the air space until they could be sure all Turkish air force assets were under government control, CNN reported, citing a U.S. defense official.

Stars and Stripes

How the hell is the US respecting this no fly zone with what is said to be 50 B61 nuclear bombs stored there?

Is this Benghazi all over again for Obama? Failure to protect American assets and property? I'm thinking those weapons are well guarded, but seriously...time to vacate Incirlik AB? No additional troops brought in either...

There is essentialy a nuclear weapons arsenal in the area of a seige...at a NATO base. Why keep US military assets based in a politically unstable country?

...oh, right...its likely all part of a plan...

Should we be surprised if ISIS gets their hands on a nuke?

a reply to: Sparkymedic

They restarted normal operations the next day.

a reply to: Sparkymedic

How the hell is the US respecting this no fly zone with what is said to be 50 B61 nuclear bombs stored there?

Prolly because the US was behind it?

(backs slowly away)

a reply to: intrptr

I think Russia would do this before the US would. After all Russia thinks they own the entire Black Sea and if Turkey shut the straights to Russia, Russia wouldnt be able to do anything about it.

It's equally possible that US went for a hasty regime change due to Erdogan's shift in attitude towards Russia.
what is known is that A fuel tanker, two f-16's and up to 42 helicopters took off from Incirlik Air Base the night of the coup.
The commander and 11 others of 'undisclosed' nationalities were arrested. the power was cut, the base shut down.
Incirlik is the only US used base in Turkey, no other base was involved in the coup.
Hundred's would be involved in arming, fueling, fitting, radar and logistics.
With over 2000 US personnel stationed and using the base, USA troops were most definitely involved in the operation.
www.incirlik.af.mil...
Notice the complete blackout over the Incirlik incident btw.
expect this to be covered up and buried.