BREAKING NOW Possible Terrorist Attack Nice France

The Afghan government, having secured a treaty in December 1978 that allowed them to call on Soviet forces, repeatedly requested the introduction of troops in Afghanistan in the spring and summer of 1979. They requested Soviet troops to provide security and to assist in the fight against the mujahideen rebels.

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During meetings between President Taraki and Soviet leaders in March 1979, the Soviets promised political support and to send military equipment and technical specialists, but upon repeated requests by Taraki for direct Soviet intervention, the leadership adamantly opposed him; reasons included that they would be met with "bitter resentment" from the Afghan people, that intervening in another country's civil war would hand a propaganda victory to their opponents, and Afghanistan's overall inconsequential weight in international affairs, in essence realizing they had little to gain by taking over a country with a poor economy, unstable government

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I guess it's about time that politician like Manuel Valls learn to accept the "new normal" of resignation for being a total moronic FAIL!!!

originally posted by: ipsedixit
The perp in this case was a troubled individual with a police record and a history of psychiatric treatment. His doctor in Tunisia, who treated him when he was much younger said that he was slightly psychotic but at the time the condition did not appear to be dangerous. A neighbor said she saw him drinking and carousing with some girl during Ramadan and therefore he is not considered to have been an observant Muslim, but more like a "nominal" Muslim. His family have said that he wasn't "religious".

He didn't have much going for him, which is why it is not surprising to read that days before the attack he sent a large sum of money home to his family. It could be that he was approached by ISIS connected militants in France and basically paid to be a suicide attacker. This is part of the jihadi modus operandi, convincing someone to do a suicide attack as a way of endowing their family with money they could otherwise never provide. This has been a feature of some suicide bombings.

www.dailymail.co.uk... sia-DAYS-murdering-84-Nice.html

'Mohamed sent the family 240,000 Tunisian Dinars (£84,000) in the last few days,' Jaber Bouhlel told MailOnline.

'He used to send us small sums of money regularly like most Tunisians working abroad. But then he sent us all that money, it was fortune.

'He sent the money illegally. He gave cash to people he knew who were returning to our village and asked them to give it to the family.'

He'd get angry and shout and broke everything in front of him. He was violent and very ill.
Jaber Bouhlel

He added: 'My brother is not a terrorist.'

His father also insisted that Bouhlel was mentally ill and not a radicalised soldier as claimed today by ISIS.

Note: The French Ministry of the Interior should probably considering offering to double the amount offered to anyone for a suicide attack, conditional upon identifying those who make the offer and giving proof of the offer. If it worked it would be a cheap way of preventing this type of incident.

It makes sense that some are easier targets than others to carry out the work of islamic terrorists. This guy was obviously crazy. You'd have to be.... but precisely the kind of person more likely to be used by ISIS.

The problem seems to be getting a lot worse.

a reply to: yuppa

Just curious, how would we deport the homegrown fundamentalists that commit terrorist acts or are involved with ISIS?

Seems they are a problem for our own judicial system to take care of.

As to the rest of the people who meet the criteria for deportation, how are we going to stop them from returning given the problems we already face regarding the influx of refuges from numerous different nations?

Seems to me any such scheme would be fraught with difficulty to begin with, both politically and financially.

It appears the police did everything they could to accommodate the terrorist:

www.dailymail.co.uk... pressed-marriage-breakdown-deadly-attack.html
Yesterday, he was stopped by police just hours before he crushed scored of people ...
He told officers that he was delivering ice-cream to the area and was allowed to park on the waterfront for several hours.

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...eyewitnesses revealed that police vans which were parked to block off the promenade in Nice were moved just hours before the lorry driven by Bouhlel carried out his attack. ... French authorities withdrew four police vans which blocked off the Promenade des Anglais, reports the Sunday Telegraph.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: yuppa

Just curious, how would we deport the homegrown fundamentalists that commit terrorist acts or are involved with ISIS?

Seems they are a problem for our own judicial system to take care of.

As to the rest of the people who meet the criteria for deportation, how are we going to stop them from returning given the problems we already face regarding the influx of refuges from numerous different nations?

Seems to me any such scheme would be fraught with difficulty to begin with, both politically and financially.

Home grown terrorists get life without chance of parole and are sent to camps.
Other countries terrorists get deported and not allowed back - sure they could try and enter illegally, Maybe the death penalty should be universally applied to any deported terrorist found in the country.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: yuppa

Just curious, how would we deport the homegrown fundamentalists that commit terrorist acts or are involved with ISIS?

Seems they are a problem for our own judicial system to take care of.

As to the rest of the people who meet the criteria for deportation, how are we going to stop them from returning given the problems we already face regarding the influx of refuges from numerous different nations?

Seems to me any such scheme would be fraught with difficulty to begin with, both politically and financially.

Well first... remove all mentions of radical islamist from the internet in our country with a automatic scrubbing routine added to the internet corporations protocols. Homegrown terrorist should be killed not deported under the spy act which also suspends their rights to a trial by their peers.

You stop ones returning to the US by implanting them with a device that will explode or release a toxin if they re enter. Also stop accepting refugees. send them back home to fight for their own homelands. screw them. The US needs to make it clear we are not accepting refugees anymore. deal with your own problems.

but we caused it.. SO what ? lifes harsh. deal with it.

originally posted by: Flanker86
I guess it's about time that politician like Manuel Valls learn to accept the "new normal" of resignation for being a total moronic FAIL!!!

I'm just an idiot that happens to agree with your sentiment but the new normal is obviously no responsibility for anyone. Oh, welcome to the new normal btw.!

a reply to: yuppa

I dont agree with censorship of the internet, although the motives are just it would extend to other areas. Plus simple use of a VPN could circumvent any such measures

As to killing or or implanting people with explosives devices???

Now you are entering the realms of science fiction. Morally, ethically and technologically.

Sorry but the suggestions you propose are laughable. The world you would create would be worse off than the one we have now.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: yuppa

I dont agree with censorship of the internet, although the motives are just it would extend to other areas. Plus simple use of a VPN could circumvent any such measures

As to killing or or implanting people with explosives devices???

Now you are entering the realms of science fiction. Morally, ethically and technologically.

Sorry but the suggestions you propose are laughable. The world you would create would be worse off than the one we have now.

Actually a binary poison would work well. Using our floride water to activate it. Inject them with the other half of it and when or if they drink water here in th eUS they will die.

a reply to: yuppa

Well maybe if Trump gets to be POTUS he will propose something similar.

On a more serious note what you are suggesting would be political suicide for any party that proposed such an idea.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: yuppa

Well maybe if Trump gets to be POTUS he will propose something similar.

On a more serious note what you are suggesting would be political suicide for any party that proposed such an idea.

True but you disguise it as a innoculation before sending them away. OOps unforseen side effects.

While the motive for the attack is still under investigation, it is worth examining why the Islamic State is so eager to claim such incidents as its own. On the surface, ramming a truck into a crowd of people gathered to watch Bastille Day fireworks seems like an act of pure nihilism. No military target was hit. Initial reports suggest that the killings may lead to French attacks on ISIS’s already-diminishing territories in Iraq and Syria. And French Muslims, many of whom were reportedly killed in the attack, will likely face security crackdowns and popular backlash from a public angry and fearful in the wake of another incomprehensible act of mass murder.

But the Islamic State’s statements and history show that such an outcome is exactly what it seeks. In the February 2015 issue of its online magazine Dabiq, the group called for acts of violence in the West that would “[eliminate] the grayzone” by sowing division and creating an insoluble conflict in Western societies between Muslims and non-Muslims. Such a conflict would force Muslims living in the West to “either apostatize … or [migrate] to the Islamic State, and thereby escape persecution from the crusader governments and citizens.”

AFTER NICE, DON’T GIVE ISIS WHAT IT’S ASKING FOR

Sanity is insanely rare nowadays.

Also now confirmed that the terrorists computer showed that he was searching for ISIS material prior to the attack.
He also texted someone during the attack asking them to bring more guns.

Radical Islamic Terrorist attack.

Not sure if this has been posted, but earlier it was reported that there were conflicting accounts of lone gunman verses organized attack. According to this story, the driver sent out a text asking for more weapons, thus he was not a lone gunman.


No lone wolf: Nice jihad murderer sent text message “BRING MORE WEAPONS” just before massacre

Yesterday it was revealed that Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel sent $110,000 to his family in Tunisia days before attack. Now we learn that the Nice Jihadi was sending texts about his increased arsenal of weapons just before the attack. Not the actions of a lone wolf or a lunatic. It was Islam. It was jihad.

“‘Bring more weapons… It’s good. I have the equipment’: Terrifying final text messages of Bastille Day killer sent MINUTES before he murdered 84 people,” by Fidelma Cook and Abe Hawken, Mailonline, July 17, 2016:

The question now is what will France's response be in light of this information. Just more hand wringing?

originally posted by: UnifiedSerenity
Not sure if this has been posted, but earlier it was reported that there were conflicting accounts of lone gunman verses organized attack. According to this story, the driver sent out a text asking for more weapons, thus he was not a lone gunman.


No lone wolf: Nice jihad murderer sent text message “BRING MORE WEAPONS” just before massacre

Yesterday it was revealed that Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel sent $110,000 to his family in Tunisia days before attack. Now we learn that the Nice Jihadi was sending texts about his increased arsenal of weapons just before the attack. Not the actions of a lone wolf or a lunatic. It was Islam. It was jihad.

“‘Bring more weapons… It’s good. I have the equipment’: Terrifying final text messages of Bastille Day killer sent MINUTES before he murdered 84 people,” by Fidelma Cook and Abe Hawken, Mailonline, July 17, 2016:

The question now is what will France's response be in light of this information. Just more hand wringing?

Those trying to make this something else have now run away from this thread. They tried t create an early narrative that they hoped would stick about a lone nut. They failed.
Planned radical islamic terrorism.

a reply to: UKTruth

Do you think his plan involved the truck the whole time? Or that he and others were going to do a group thing with guns?

I'm just curious why more weapons if he planned on the truck..

They might have arrested 7 but we know there are more out there waiting..

originally posted by: misfit312
a reply to: UKTruth

Do you think his plan involved the truck the whole time? Or that he and others were going to do a group thing with guns?

I'm just curious why more weapons if he planned on the truck..

They might have arrested 7 but we know there are more out there waiting..

he also shot from the truck - he may have been left out to dry by other accomplices that were supposed to back him up with more firepower...

originally posted by: UKTruth
Also now confirmed that the terrorists computer showed that he was searching for ISIS material prior to the attack.
He also texted someone during the attack asking them to bring more guns.

Radical Islamic Terrorist attack.

Just clicking on Liveleak could be considered searching for ISIS material if the authorities really wanted to pin something on any of us.

Christ, if MI5 or the FBI looked at my computer deep enough no doubt they would find a few videos of ISIS, Al qaeda, The YPG, The Red hand comandos, The IRA, The UDA, ETA, Force 17 , The Judean people's front and the People's front of Judea, but i have no plans on joining any of them on a jihad.

And the fact that no-one brought more guns tells me he was a lone wolf clown loser, pissed off because his ex wife is now getting pumped by someone else.