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originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: introvert
You know, instead of acting as a good guy, and making everyone else look bad for simply trying to save the lives of innocent people, you should suggest what should be done so this kind of attacks never happen again.
But I do know that I am not willing to go the extremes some others suggest, out of anger or emotions. Those extremes would make us no better than the damned terrorists.
No. Deporting, monitoring and immigration bans does not or will not make us as bad as the terrorists. Last time I checked they were chopping heads off, blowing people up, drowning people in cages, setting fire to people, shooting people and squashing people under truck wheels.
To suggest that they are the same is emotional blackmail.
What you just posted is emotional blackmail.
Quite the conundrum.
Hardly. Maybe you just don't understand that stating clear differences is not emotional blackmail, whilst saying something like 'we'd be just like the terrorists' is.
How are you going to go about rounding-up people to deport them? What criteria will be used to separate simple criminals and potential terrorists? What if they have families?
See where I am going with this?
You are opening the door to persecution and that would not make is any better.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: imod02
"The picture of Hitler has no power anymore"
If that's the case then Humanity really has lost its way and are doomed to repeat her historical mistakes again, this time possibly even in a more grandesque manner.
I seriously hope you are mistaken.
As one aspect - you failed to mention the other discussions - namely screening existing muslims, deportation where appropriate and stopping immigration from certainly areas of the world. That's unlike you to take a point in isolation like that
I don't think it's symbolic to get the Muslim community standing up for their country. It would be like saying that the civil rights movement was symbolic.
originally posted by: 34thRight
I just find myself a little perplexed here. How was the driver able to :
1) Travel approx. 1.2 miles before being stopped ? Especially considering he was only traveling a speed of approx. 20-25 miles an hour.
2) Kill, AGAIN, at a speed of approx. 20-25 miles an hour ... 84 people ?
Now I don't mean to be graphic here, but running over enough bodies would, if we're thinking logically here, slow your vehicle down a noticeable degree. If only momentarily. The acceleration/speed, in my opinion, does not outweigh the mass here. Again, in my opinion.
And on top of all this, wouldn't the people up ahead of the carnage be able to hear the screams and cries from behind ... and therefore be able to react accordingly without harm coming to themselves and/or loved ones ? Again, this truck was traveling 20-25 miles an hour.
Now I've watched the videos. A few times now. And I can't seem to shake off the feeling that something is very, very off, with not only the videos themselves ... but the whole situation in it's entirety.
One thing is VERY CLEAR to me, however. And that is the global agenda that is being pushed. And quite forcefully at that.
Now here's a bonus question for all my ATS " sleuths " out there ...
WHY is these global agendas being pushed so hard this year ??
I'll save my personal thoughtstatement and opinions on that question for later.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth
As one aspect - you failed to mention the other discussions - namely screening existing muslims, deportation where appropriate and stopping immigration from certainly areas of the world. That's unlike you to take a point in isolation like that
No, I addressed those aspects. Persecution and symbolism.
I don't think it's symbolic to get the Muslim community standing up for their country. It would be like saying that the civil rights movement was symbolic.
The civil rights movement was not symbolic, but their marches were. That was the point.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: burgerbuddy
That's a mater of opinion, i think it illustrated my point rather eloquently.
Possibly you would be happier with something like this
That's what internment camps look like, there are other picture available of a more graphic nature i suggest you peruse them at you leisure and discover what happens to a minority of people when others decide there location and ultimate fate.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: burgerbuddy
That's a mater of opinion, i think it illustrated my point rather eloquently.
Possibly you would be happier with something like this
That's what internment camps look like, there are other picture available of a more graphic nature i suggest you peruse them at you leisure and discover what happens to a minority of people when others decide there location and ultimate fate.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: burgerbuddy
That's a mater of opinion, i think it illustrated my point rather eloquently.
Possibly you would be happier with something like this
That's what internment camps look like, there are other picture available of a more graphic nature i suggest you peruse them at you leisure and discover what happens to a minority of people when others decide there location and ultimate fate.
I would not support concentration camps - other than for citizens that are proven to be sympathetic to ISIS.
I do think that kind of organisation could be employed though to start the screening process.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: burgerbuddy
That's a mater of opinion, i think it illustrated my point rather eloquently.
Possibly you would be happier with something like this
That's what internment camps look like, there are other picture available of a more graphic nature i suggest you peruse them at you leisure and discover what happens to a minority of people when others decide there location and ultimate fate.
I would not support concentration camps - other than for citizens that are proven to be sympathetic to ISIS.
I do think that kind of organisation could be employed though to start the screening process.
And fascism rears it's ugly head.
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: UKTruth
I just don't see it ending well. The intentions of such places are spurious at best and seldom accommodate there occupants needs in a positive manner. These people would eventually all need to go somewhere and a think as history has recorded once out of sight, out of mind, a significant percentage of the poor sods would simply be disappeared.