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Building My personal religion: Cognitive Universalism

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posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: DarkvsLight29

Curious as to why you put religion in quotations, it has all the nessesary requirements to be considered one.

But thank you, it's really not important whether it is by definition a religion.

There is no personification involved, but the same rules apply. Some religions worship a sun god.. I worship the sun. If you wish to word it this way, the sun itself, the universe itself, all birth govers, are the deities of existence. They are silent, and create without expectation. Just as we breathe and exhale without expectation.
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posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: DeadCat

originally posted by: ssenerawa
And what gave birth to order?


Good question. You find the answer to that, let me know and I'll add it.


I'm sure we would all love to know the answer. But what have birth to order is unknown. The importance of noting the birth givers is to be conciously aware of your known origions. In other words. Cognitively concluding that the birth giver of Order, may never be known, and that's okay.
It's not okay imo. Like a child with a mother, and him never being allowed to meet



posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: ssenerawa

This is why the pursuit of knowledge and acceptance of the unknown are important principles. You can search, but you may not find an appropriate answer in your life time. This is why accepting the unknown is also important.

Once you find the answer, you will then ask.. what created that? It's never ending, so you must find a point of unknown you are comfortable with.Just like Death, Unknown is inevitable. My comfortable point is Order. I am curious what gave birth to Order, but not knowing, does not take away from the existence of what we do know.
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posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: DeadCat
These are the principles which he believes will guide him to his final salvation, which he believes you may also pick and choose from them to find your own, or even add your own principles as you see fit:

Gratitude
Self awareness
Good will toward others
Acceptance of others
Knowledge
Modesty
Honesty to self and others
Experience
Sincerity
Compassion
Truth
Lack of judgement
Modest detachment from ones Ego
Health (Emotional, mental, and physical.)
Understanding
Detachment of materialism
Acceptance of ones duality (If such duality is present to the individual.)
Acceptance of universal duality (The balance of "Good" and "Evil".. +, -.. Order and Chaos. Each is necessary and each has contributed to his current state of existence.)
Acceptance of death
Acceptance of the unknown
Open to self correction and development



Still on board here. However, I was hoping to see Strength , Passion and a bit of leadership included above. Surely the path of that particular seeker is bound to include some incidents. For example, having to dive to save someone drowning; pulling someone out of the clutches of a bad guy; taking risks of some sorts. Is the list comprehensive or it is an extract only.

Just wondering before you go further.



posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: crowdedskies

originally posted by: DeadCat
These are the principles which he believes will guide him to his final salvation, which he believes you may also pick and choose from them to find your own, or even add your own principles as you see fit:

Gratitude
Self awareness
Good will toward others
Acceptance of others
Knowledge
Modesty
Honesty to self and others
Experience
Sincerity
Compassion
Truth
Lack of judgement
Modest detachment from ones Ego
Health (Emotional, mental, and physical.)
Understanding
Detachment of materialism
Acceptance of ones duality (If such duality is present to the individual.)
Acceptance of universal duality (The balance of "Good" and "Evil".. +, -.. Order and Chaos. Each is necessary and each has contributed to his current state of existence.)
Acceptance of death
Acceptance of the unknown
Open to self correction and development



Still on board here. However, I was hoping to see Strength , Passion and a bit of leadership included above. Surely the path of that particular seeker is bound to include some incidents. For example, having to dive to save someone drowning; pulling someone out of the clutches of a bad guy; taking risks of some sorts. Is the list comprehensive or it is an extract only.

Just wondering before you go further.


I accumulated the list of my own beliefs. Yes those are good qualities and as I said, you can give or take from the list as you please. It's funny that I left those out, as they are qualities I don't see within myself much.

Strength, I would rather use the word courage.
Passion, I would say falls under sincerity or compassion. Leadership I don't see as a quality nessesary for MY salvation, but maybe you see it helpful for yours, and it's okay to use that.

The list is never complete, or incomplete. They are just guides to help you.l along your path.

Each salvation is unique to the individual. So it makes sense that some guides will work for some, but not others.
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posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: DeadCat


The list is never complete, or incomplete. They are just guides to help you.l along your path.

Each salvation is unique to the individual. So it makes sense that some guides will work for some, but not others.


That answers my question and glad you mentioned Courage.



posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: crowdedskies

You can self reflect, and add as you go.

For example, in my life I smoke cigarettes and occasionally marijuana.

I feel that I should add "self sufficiency" to my list. That is, the lack of addiction, the lack of dependency. This also is better for my physical health, which I believe to be a good principle.

This type of self reflection, or self awareness (an ither principle I listed) brings a feeling of self productivity, which is a great motivator.
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posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 05:04 PM
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originally posted by: DeadCat
a reply to: crowdedskies

You can self reflect, and add as you go.

For example, in my life I smoke cigarettes and occasionally marijuana.

I feel that I should add "self sufficiency" to my list. That is, the lack of addiction, the lack of dependency. This also is better for my physical health, which I believe to be a good principle.

This type of self reflection, or self awareness (an ither principle I listed) brings a feeling of self productivity, which is a great motivator.


Again, I think you are on the right track. The Self-reflection list is also a known method used by occultists. To have found this method all by yourself shows that you are tuning into the right vibes.



posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: DeadCat
a reply to: crowdedskies

I haven't borrowed anything, but in my opinion all religions have the same end goal, and striking similarities, mine is no different. The names and descriptions or some ideology bent to better frame my own mind at peace. A sum of my personal core beliefs.There is more to come that I know for a fact is a mix of Hinduism and Buddisum. Both duality and non duality, Deity of self, or gods, ect.


They (religions) do have the same end goal. That is to provide a belief system for the unwashed masses. One they can trust and feel themselves within a shared 'community' of mutual fellowship. They do not know they are condeming themselves (after physical death) to an eternity of entrapment; or what is commonly understood to be HELL; forget the damnation part, just by participating in a belief system one is damned. Can I name you my Cheese Burger Cat? Joecroft? what do you say? a good candidate?



posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

I have not intent on brainwashing. X) Anything I put into this should make logical sence, at least until we get to the after life aspect..

How does one NOT believe in anything? Subconsciously at the very least one must come to some sort of an after death, whether it be puragtory, blackness, heaven, hell.
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posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 08:18 PM
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originally posted by: DeadCat
a reply to: vethumanbeing

DeadCat: I have not intent on brainwashing. X) Anything I put into this should make logical sence, at least until we get to the after life aspect..How does one NOT believe in anything? Subconsciously at the very least one must come to some sort of an after death, whether it be puragtory, blackness, heaven, hell.

You are making very good points. Information comes your way and you resonate/vibrate with it or you don't. Belief systems are based in resonance; easiest path to affect the random listener. Not so random at all as organized Religions convey a similar tenant of what they describe as a truth. Here is the interesting thing about the great Religions; all carry the same message of the hope of a Redemer that will rescue or save the human. Although the message is the same; Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, resonates with a slightly different vibration. Someone or something wants to manipulate or control the human using these geographically imposed false belief systems by inventing new belief systems (the samo samo info) to ensnare as many as possible; tricked into damnation (because one is dogmatic) and an eternity existence experiencing one's own dogmatic self described HELL.
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posted on Jul, 15 2016 @ 10:53 PM
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Why does it have to be hell? If I am thinking for myself though this all, and not just following other religions, I come to the conclusion that my death will initiate my personal belief of what an after life entails.

Would you guys like to know a bit about the after life I will be attempting to explain? Since we are on the topic now?



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: DeadCat
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Would you guys like to know a bit about the after life I will be attempting to explain? Since we are on the topic now?


Please do go on. We all have our own idea about it , I suppose. What is yours (assuming you are willing to discuss)



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: DeadCat
a reply to: vethumanbeing

DeadCat: Why does it have to be hell? If I am thinking for myself though this all, and not just following other religions, I come to the conclusion that my death will initiate my personal belief of what an after life entails.

That location; because it is part of your belief system and that same system is going to place you squarely in Hell trapped in a belief system you chose. There are so many; shouldn't that be your clue as to the unreliability of each one? My physical death (this time) will add another fully developed individualized personality to my already 100s if not thousands of identities this soul has lived over the centuries.
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posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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Don't forget to add on the parts that make it asininely pre-plexing and complex, to confuse your enemies or any copycats that don't understand the meaning behinds such words, or some redundant morale of the stories that would have probably made or have been very appealing or making some sense to the culture at the time, and just maybe may.

So that way, you separate the Sheep from the Goats and pray that God doesn't kill us.
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posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
They (religions) do have the same end goal. That is to provide a belief system for the unwashed masses. One they can trust and feel themselves within a shared 'community' of mutual fellowship. They do not know they are condeming themselves (after physical death) to an eternity of entrapment; or what is commonly understood to be HELL; forget the damnation part, just by participating in a belief system one is damned. Can I name you my Cheese Burger Cat? Joecroft? what do you say? a good candidate?


Hi just passing by, thought I’d drop in…


Ahem…(adjusts tie)

“Good candidate” you ask…I’ve never really thought of myself as a cheese Burger Cat candidate before…

Although if I was…I would be the Greatest Cheese Burger Cat, that ever lived…Heck, I’d even have my own cheese burger factory…including vegey burgers…

That “eternity of entrapment” you speak of is just another, cog in their spiritual ladder step (hopefully anyway) either up or down…And just like the game snakes and ladders one sometimes has to go down before one can go up…


- JC



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: Joecroft
a reply to: vethumanbeing


Originally posted by vethumanbeing
They (religions) do have the same end goal. That is to provide a belief system for the unwashed masses. One they can trust and feel themselves within a shared 'community' of mutual fellowship. They do not know they are condeming themselves (after physical death) to an eternity of entrapment; or what is commonly understood to be HELL; forget the damnation part, just by participating in a belief system one is damned. Can I name you my Cheese Burger Cat? Joecroft? what do you say? a good candidate?


Joecroft: Hi just passing by, thought I’d drop in…Ahem…(adjusts tie)
“Good candidate” you ask…I’ve never really thought of myself as a cheese Burger Cat candidate before…
Although if I was…I would be the Greatest Cheese Burger Cat, that ever lived…Heck, I’d even have my own cheese burger factory…including vegey burgers…

As the official Cat; you drag in the stray burger or two.

JC: That “eternity of entrapment” you speak of is just another, cog in their spiritual ladder step (hopefully anyway) either up or down…And just like the game snakes and ladders one sometimes has to go down before one can go up…- JC
There you go, bring in Masonic Imagery:


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Just so, correct; you are in charge of your own enlightenment progress (don't get stuck between rungs).



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
As the official Cat; you drag in the stray burger or two.


So it’s official…

Errr thanks…I really like cheeseburgers…Although I haven’t had any for years!



Originally posted by vethumanbeing
There you go, bring in Masonic Imagery:


Did I…



Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Just so, correct; you are in charge of your own enlightenment progress (don't get stuck between rungs).


Wow…First degree; that’s the first time I’ve ever seen that picture…in this lifetime anyways…

What are those funny things going up or down those ladders, may I ask…? Looks like a cross a key and an anchor…strange…


- JC



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 09:40 PM
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I wonder as well; and what is that disembodied hand reaching for? Why are the Pleiades depicted around the moon, what is going on with the checkerboard..the capitols on the three pillars are different; its a puzzle!



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
I wonder as well; and what is that disembodied hand reaching for? Why are the Pleiades depicted around the moon, what is going on with the checkerboard..the capitols on the three pillars are different; its a puzzle!


How do you know that’s a disembodied hand lol…maybe he/she/it is just reaching out from behind the Sun/bright light…I know, maybe I’M the one who's seeing things…

Checker board is the ups and downs of life playing out… Pleiades hmmm...more like seven stars representing the 7 Chakras within the physical…

Capitals hmmm you mean LIT…?


- JC



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