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I think crimes motivated by hate towards an unrelated innocent person are especially heinous
originally posted by: olbe66
a reply to: theySeeme
I think crimes motivated by hate towards an unrelated innocent person are especially heinous
So it would be ok to commit a hate crime against the actual people you really hate? Using the principle of charity, I don't think you literally meant that. You maybe need to re-word this.
a reply to: theySeeme
I see english isn't your strongest language. Take note of the word "especially" heinous, no, it does not mean that the other's aren't heinous as well.
originally posted by: olbe66
a reply to: theySeeme
I see english isn't your strongest language. Take note of the word "especially" heinous, no, it does not mean that the other's aren't heinous as well.
Conceded. I did read it as a modifier of "crimes" (in general) "motivated by hate towards an unrelated innocent person" as "especially heinous".
I never did that well in diagramming sentences in grade school. Blame the educational system (not).
originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: TheBulk
The shooter said he wanted to kill white people, preferably cops. Which he clearly made secondary to being white.
"we dont know what his motivations were"
I call that downplaying the situation for the sake of your own agenda. No credibility left after that.
"Hate crimes are committed when it is aimed at people of color"
In her world yes. In reality ,If a white man, woman or child is killed by someone because they were white it is a so called "hate crime" end of story. Although "Racial crime" would fit it all better imo then hate crime but the media has to have their roll of the tongue buzzwords to keep poking the beehive.
Stating that hate crimes cannot be committed on people who are "white" is a racist statement in and all by itself so this woman just exposed herself to be a racist, end of that story.
Edit: there is also no such thing as "Reversed racism" there is only "Racism".
f one were to say the rape of children is especially heinous, that does not mean that the rape of older people are not. I hope you learned something today.
originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: theySeeme
And more white people get killed by cops then black people and you dont see anybody taking to the streets for that either.
Still stating as a matter of fact that the vast majority of hate crimes are committed by white people (and there by excluding all other races for most of them) remains like i said a bold statement to make because as is demonstrated in this very thread already society is extremely hesitant to call hate crimes committed against white people exactly that. Even if you were able to cite stats for it they are invalidated by the sheer fact that even the possibility of hate crimes against white people is questioned, pondered and even straight out denied.
originally posted by: theySeeme
originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: theySeeme
And more white people get killed by cops then black people and you dont see anybody taking to the streets for that either.
Still stating as a matter of fact that the vast majority of hate crimes are committed by white people (and there by excluding all other races for most of them) remains like i said a bold statement to make because as is demonstrated in this very thread already society is extremely hesitant to call hate crimes committed against white people exactly that. Even if you were able to cite stats for it they are invalidated by the sheer fact that even the possibility of hate crimes against white people is questioned, pondered and even straight out denied.
Yes more white people are allegedly killed by the police (even though the AG and Director of the FBI admit that no official statistics are kept, so the truth is no one knows)
However, according to the records that we do have, majority of whites killed by police were ARMED, the same is not so for black victims. That's where the outrage comes in. It's the same with drugs, percentage wise blacks and whites use drugs at the same rate, yet blacks are 80% more likely to be arrested for drugs.
Same with domestic violence in a way, in battered women shelters most women are white, yet in jails most domestic violence guys are black. How is this working?
Also, if black people are so anti-police, why is it that 71% of cops this year alone were murdered in cold blood by white males? The remaining 29% make up blacks, middle easterners and latinos.
EDIT: I should also add that, according to the statistics you people keep quoting to me - 71% of cops this year were killed by white people, even though the vast majority of stops were minorities. So the group that got stopped by the police the least amount of times has murdered the police the most amount of times.
How's that for statistics.
originally posted by: LSU0408
originally posted by: theySeeme
originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: theySeeme
And more white people get killed by cops then black people and you dont see anybody taking to the streets for that either.
Still stating as a matter of fact that the vast majority of hate crimes are committed by white people (and there by excluding all other races for most of them) remains like i said a bold statement to make because as is demonstrated in this very thread already society is extremely hesitant to call hate crimes committed against white people exactly that. Even if you were able to cite stats for it they are invalidated by the sheer fact that even the possibility of hate crimes against white people is questioned, pondered and even straight out denied.
Yes more white people are allegedly killed by the police (even though the AG and Director of the FBI admit that no official statistics are kept, so the truth is no one knows)
However, according to the records that we do have, majority of whites killed by police were ARMED, the same is not so for black victims. That's where the outrage comes in. It's the same with drugs, percentage wise blacks and whites use drugs at the same rate, yet blacks are 80% more likely to be arrested for drugs.
Same with domestic violence in a way, in battered women shelters most women are white, yet in jails most domestic violence guys are black. How is this working?
Also, if black people are so anti-police, why is it that 71% of cops this year alone were murdered in cold blood by white males? The remaining 29% make up blacks, middle easterners and latinos.
EDIT: I should also add that, according to the statistics you people keep quoting to me - 71% of cops this year were killed by white people, even though the vast majority of stops were minorities. So the group that got stopped by the police the least amount of times has murdered the police the most amount of times.
How's that for statistics.
So which is it, are these official or guesstimates?
originally posted by: olbe66
a reply to: theySeeme
f one were to say the rape of children is especially heinous, that does not mean that the rape of older people are not. I hope you learned something today.
Oh, I did. And thank you for your time, effort and thoughtful posting that me allowed to learn it - that something.
originally posted by: theySeeme
originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: theySeeme
And more white people get killed by cops then black people and you dont see anybody taking to the streets for that either.
Still stating as a matter of fact that the vast majority of hate crimes are committed by white people (and there by excluding all other races for most of them) remains like i said a bold statement to make because as is demonstrated in this very thread already society is extremely hesitant to call hate crimes committed against white people exactly that. Even if you were able to cite stats for it they are invalidated by the sheer fact that even the possibility of hate crimes against white people is questioned, pondered and even straight out denied.
Yes more white people are allegedly killed by the police (even though the AG and Director of the FBI admit that no official statistics are kept, so the truth is no one knows)
New DOJ Statistics on Race and Violent Crime
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: olbe66
a reply to: theySeeme
f one were to say the rape of children is especially heinous, that does not mean that the rape of older people are not. I hope you learned something today.
Oh, I did. And thank you for your time, effort and thoughtful posting that me allowed to learn it - that something.
Sock puppet senses tingling........
originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: TheBulk
So...........one more step toward open season on whites.
Well, you have to give them credit..........they aren't hiding their agenda and they aren't hiding their hatred. Better that than being coy about their intentions.