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Why do covert racists ignore the facts? when does it stop?

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posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
I am not going to go on and on with you. It looks bad on my post history as you claimed, to debate about BLM. Pretty sad to be called out just because of the hot topics I post on. Typical leftist tactics.


iTruthSeeker


I'm glad I was able to educate you today. If you need to be fact checked again, don't hesitate to return, I'll gladly do the research for you.



Why did you edit your post and remove "show me once instance of BLM violence" ?


Now I see it.. Here is a video already posted.

www.infowars.com...

Yea it is info wars so what.


iTruthSeeker


?

It's still there. Why are you deflecting?



Not deflecting. I refreshed the page and it was missing, you obviously were editing your post. Not a big deal.




posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
I am not going to go on and on with you. It looks bad on my post history as you claimed, to debate about BLM. Pretty sad to be called out just because of the hot topics I post on. Typical leftist tactics.


iTruthSeeker


I'm glad I was able to educate you today. If you need to be fact checked again, don't hesitate to return, I'll gladly do the research for you.



Why did you edit your post and remove "show me once instance of BLM violence" ?


Now I see it.. Here is a video already posted.

www.infowars.com...

Yea it is info wars so what.


iTruthSeeker


?

It's still there. Why are you deflecting?



Not deflecting. I refreshed the page and it was missing, you obviously were editing your post. Not a big deal.


I guess, you still haven't provided any proof or source that the BLM Organization (an officially established organization with representatives and officials) advocates violence.
edit on 14-7-2016 by theySeeme because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
I am not going to go on and on with you. It looks bad on my post history as you claimed, to debate about BLM. Pretty sad to be called out just because of the hot topics I post on. Typical leftist tactics.


iTruthSeeker


I'm glad I was able to educate you today. If you need to be fact checked again, don't hesitate to return, I'll gladly do the research for you.



Why did you edit your post and remove "show me once instance of BLM violence" ?


Now I see it.. Here is a video already posted.

www.infowars.com...

Yea it is info wars so what.


iTruthSeeker


?

It's still there. Why are you deflecting?



Not deflecting. I refreshed the page and it was missing, you obviously were editing your post. Not a big deal.


I guess, you still haven't provided any proof or source that the BLM Organization (an officially established organization with representatives and officials) advocates violence.



You not see the video I posted a link to?
edit on 14-7-2016 by iTruthSeeker because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: theySeeme

man you like to whip a dead horse don't you, so your going to keep on saying incomplete because a govt agency is publishing some numbers, and that a news source is not adequate enough.

but then on the other hand you use news sources to back up your claims.



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
I am not going to go on and on with you. It looks bad on my post history as you claimed, to debate about BLM. Pretty sad to be called out just because of the hot topics I post on. Typical leftist tactics.


iTruthSeeker


I'm glad I was able to educate you today. If you need to be fact checked again, don't hesitate to return, I'll gladly do the research for you.



Why did you edit your post and remove "show me once instance of BLM violence" ?


Now I see it.. Here is a video already posted.

www.infowars.com...

Yea it is info wars so what.


iTruthSeeker


?

It's still there. Why are you deflecting?



Not deflecting. I refreshed the page and it was missing, you obviously were editing your post. Not a big deal.


I guess, you still haven't provided any proof or source that the BLM Organization (an officially established organization with representatives and officials) advocates violence.



You not see the video I posted a link to?


Ah, so one person who supports BLM advocating for death means that the BLM organization is advocating? Tell me, if a trump supporter advocates for the death of blacks and mexicans, does that mean Trump is advocating for death? If you aren't ready to use your logic for one thing, don't use it for the other. That's called being biased.



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: theySeeme

man you like to whip a dead horse don't you, so your going to keep on saying incomplete because a govt agency is publishing some numbers, and that a news source is not adequate enough.

but then on the other hand you use news sources to back up your claims.







The Director of the FBI and the Attorney General have admitted no such records are kept. They have admitted they don't know. Washington Post did an investigation, concluded the same, as has the NYTimes and several other independant groups. No one knows.



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
I am not going to go on and on with you. It looks bad on my post history as you claimed, to debate about BLM. Pretty sad to be called out just because of the hot topics I post on. Typical leftist tactics.



iTruthSeeker


I'm glad I was able to educate you today. If you need to be fact checked again, don't hesitate to return, I'll gladly do the research for you.



Why did you edit your post and remove "show me once instance of BLM violence" ?


Now I see it.. Here is a video already posted.

www.infowars.com...

Yea it is info wars so what.


iTruthSeeker


?

It's still there. Why are you deflecting?



Not deflecting. I refreshed the page and it was missing, you obviously were editing your post. Not a big deal.


I guess, you still haven't provided any proof or source that the BLM Organization (an officially established organization with representatives and officials) advocates violence.



You not see the video I posted a link to?


Ah, so one person who supports BLM advocating for death means that the BLM organization is advocating? Tell me, if a trump supporter advocates for the death of blacks and mexicans, does that mean Trump is advocating for death? If you aren't ready to use your logic for one thing, don't use it for the other. That's called being biased.






When has any official of BLM sponsored or advocated violence? I just want one instance, and I'll take what you say as fact. Just one!



You asked for one, I gave you one. And now your turning it around.,.. "Ohhh, welll, ummm, that was only one and means nothing"



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
I am not going to go on and on with you. It looks bad on my post history as you claimed, to debate about BLM. Pretty sad to be called out just because of the hot topics I post on. Typical leftist tactics.



iTruthSeeker


I'm glad I was able to educate you today. If you need to be fact checked again, don't hesitate to return, I'll gladly do the research for you.



Why did you edit your post and remove "show me once instance of BLM violence" ?


Now I see it.. Here is a video already posted.

www.infowars.com...

Yea it is info wars so what.


iTruthSeeker


?

It's still there. Why are you deflecting?



Not deflecting. I refreshed the page and it was missing, you obviously were editing your post. Not a big deal.


I guess, you still haven't provided any proof or source that the BLM Organization (an officially established organization with representatives and officials) advocates violence.



You not see the video I posted a link to?


Ah, so one person who supports BLM advocating for death means that the BLM organization is advocating? Tell me, if a trump supporter advocates for the death of blacks and mexicans, does that mean Trump is advocating for death? If you aren't ready to use your logic for one thing, don't use it for the other. That's called being biased.






When has any official of BLM sponsored or advocated violence? I just want one instance, and I'll take what you say as fact. Just one!



You asked for one, I gave you one. And now your turning it around.,.. "Ohhh, welll, ummm, that was only one and means nothing"


The man you show in the video is not an official of the BLM movement. You can view a list of BLM officials on blacklivesmatter.com... , if you feel threatened by BLM because some random person who supports BLM calls for violence, perhaps you should feel threatened by TRUMP because random people who support trump also call for violence.



EDIT: Your name is very ironic.
edit on 14-7-2016 by theySeeme because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:05 AM
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6 pages, and no one has been able to prove any of my information wrong, take note folks, I do research. So are we going to stop this us vs. them mentality and come together? Or are you going to wake up tomorrow and make a topic about "Black man ___insert act here____ white __insert gender here" ? Or perhaps it will be "White man ___insert act here____black___insert gender here". People love sides. People love to talk about how unjust and bad the government and the police are, but only when it's affecting their side.
edit on 14-7-2016 by theySeeme because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
I am not going to go on and on with you. It looks bad on my post history as you claimed, to debate about BLM. Pretty sad to be called out just because of the hot topics I post on. Typical leftist tactics.



iTruthSeeker


I'm glad I was able to educate you today. If you need to be fact checked again, don't hesitate to return, I'll gladly do the research for you.



Why did you edit your post and remove "show me once instance of BLM violence" ?


Now I see it.. Here is a video already posted.

www.infowars.com...

Yea it is info wars so what.


iTruthSeeker


?

It's still there. Why are you deflecting?



Not deflecting. I refreshed the page and it was missing, you obviously were editing your post. Not a big deal.


I guess, you still haven't provided any proof or source that the BLM Organization (an officially established organization with representatives and officials) advocates violence.



You not see the video I posted a link to?


Ah, so one person who supports BLM advocating for death means that the BLM organization is advocating? Tell me, if a trump supporter advocates for the death of blacks and mexicans, does that mean Trump is advocating for death? If you aren't ready to use your logic for one thing, don't use it for the other. That's called being biased.






When has any official of BLM sponsored or advocated violence? I just want one instance, and I'll take what you say as fact. Just one!



You asked for one, I gave you one. And now your turning it around.,.. "Ohhh, welll, ummm, that was only one and means nothing"


The man you show in the video is not an official of the BLM movement. You can view a list of BLM officials on blacklivesmatter.com... , if you feel threatened by BLM because some random person who supports BLM calls for violence, perhaps you should feel threatened by TRUMP because random people who support trump also call for violence.




This is really going nowhere. There are many incidents of violence in the whole BLM movement. A few black police chiefs would agree with me. I have seen the violence at protests. I am not wasting my whole day going back and forth with you. There are other threads dealing with this subject.

Also I am not aware of Trump supporters calling for unprovoked violence. I do not see them in the streets blocking traffic, etc. There is no point in debating you and your so called facts in the OP. Others have already pointed out their flaws. Have a great day.



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: theySeeme

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
I am not going to go on and on with you. It looks bad on my post history as you claimed, to debate about BLM. Pretty sad to be called out just because of the hot topics I post on. Typical leftist tactics.



iTruthSeeker


I'm glad I was able to educate you today. If you need to be fact checked again, don't hesitate to return, I'll gladly do the research for you.



Why did you edit your post and remove "show me once instance of BLM violence" ?


Now I see it.. Here is a video already posted.

www.infowars.com...

Yea it is info wars so what.


iTruthSeeker


?

It's still there. Why are you deflecting?



Not deflecting. I refreshed the page and it was missing, you obviously were editing your post. Not a big deal.


I guess, you still haven't provided any proof or source that the BLM Organization (an officially established organization with representatives and officials) advocates violence.



You not see the video I posted a link to?


Ah, so one person who supports BLM advocating for death means that the BLM organization is advocating? Tell me, if a trump supporter advocates for the death of blacks and mexicans, does that mean Trump is advocating for death? If you aren't ready to use your logic for one thing, don't use it for the other. That's called being biased.






When has any official of BLM sponsored or advocated violence? I just want one instance, and I'll take what you say as fact. Just one!



You asked for one, I gave you one. And now your turning it around.,.. "Ohhh, welll, ummm, that was only one and means nothing"


The man you show in the video is not an official of the BLM movement. You can view a list of BLM officials on blacklivesmatter.com... , if you feel threatened by BLM because some random person who supports BLM calls for violence, perhaps you should feel threatened by TRUMP because random people who support trump also call for violence.




This is really going nowhere. There are many incidents of violence in the whole BLM movement. A few black police chiefs would agree with me. I have seen the violence at protests. I am not wasting my whole day going back and forth with you. There are other threads dealing with this subject.

Also I am not aware of Trump supporters calling for unprovoked violence. I do not see them in the streets blocking traffic, etc. There is no point in debating you and your so called facts in the OP. Others have already pointed out their flaws. Have a great day.



I guess. If you feel threatened by BLM because of a bogus story about a police horse being killed (which never happened, and a similar incident that did had nothing to do with BLM), then so be it. Like the title says, it's fine to deny fact to suit your agenda, why not.

Tell me more about how you fear for your life concerning BLM because traffic was blocked.

Trump supporters get violent with silent protesters


Donald Trump Supporter Spits on Latino Protester at Rally


Trump says knock the crap out of them I'll pay the legal fees (WOW, Trump advocating for violence!)



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posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: theySeeme

so you think that the post and the Guardian and the Washington Post ( which by the way says the number for 2015 as 990 in their research) who search everyday for deaths by cop in any source is not good enough, when both are going to great lengths to paint the cops and the sytem in a bad light.



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:17 AM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: theySeeme

so you think that the post and the Guardian and the Washington Post ( which by the way says the number for 2015 as 990 in their research) who search everyday for deaths by cop in any source is not good enough, when both are going to great lengths to paint the cops and the sytem in a bad light.



The Washington post you mentioned wrote this article -
How many police shootings a year? No one knows
www.washingtonpost.com...
edit on 14-7-2016 by theySeeme because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:24 AM
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Were you guys against the Buffalo Bills fans that blocked traffic? While showing their bare butts?

Buffalo Bills Fans Block Traffic With Bare Butts After Loss To Eagles (Video)



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:29 AM
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I am sure somewhere there is a complete record of every civilian
shot by police. We are just not privy.



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: UnderKingsPeak

I am sure somewhere there is a complete record of every civilian
shot by police. We are just not privy.


Totally agree, for obvious reasons. The truth will set chaos.



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: stinkelbaum
a reply to: TheBulk




However 13% of the population is committing over half of the violent crime in this country.

which leaves 87% committing the rest, but they must be ok?


What are you talking about? I dont think you even know. 87%?
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posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: theySeeme




My uncle is a dumbass, but I would not say a cop would be justified in killing him unarmed if he is not violent but simply being a dumbass.


True until the moment he puts his hands in his pocket or his hands go out of site when a gun is pointed at him.

Remember these cops see training videos , of how many of them get shot killed from normal day to day traffic stop, and they have itchy fingers.

The issue is not going to get fixed by focusing on racism,its going to take education and common sense on the general public and better training ,technology and better policies on the law enforcement.





What I was getting at is that many people orginally hated him for his race,

Thats my point . that was BS manufactured by the MSM. Political ideals affiliation had a larger part todo with it than the small population of ignorant fools who hated him for his color.

The people that hated Obama were republicans who are trained to hate and blame democrats for everything and vice versa. Hillary is even more hated than Obama.




Look around, many are saying everything is fine and dandy.


nobody is saying everything is fine and dandy. What people are saying is that their is a problem but its much more complex than simple racism which is consistent with what I said.




How is BLM not helping to solve the problem? can you tell me how it's making it worse?


The problem with law enforcement is far more complex than just racism. Having BLM make it about racism only prevents the REAL issue from being addressed properly.

The problem with law enforcement is the policies,training,budgets,mental screening, work hours, stress and the constant fear of being killed on a routine stop.

Also part of the problem is the civilian population disregard for common sense.



Can you tell me how it's making a race war, as you said?


Crying wolf syndrome is making people numb to racism and encouraging people to say enough with this one sided BS.

Automatically labelling a white person racist with every white on black interaction encourages animosity towards each race.

The MSM and groups such as the BLM focus on injustice as long as the victim is not a white male , and paint a picture that its ok to stereotype by automatically brushing the white man as racist right of the bat.

The problem is nobody likes to be grouped as a victim and nor does any group of people like to be seen as the villain for the most part. This encourages hate and resentment towards each other.

Hence , a group like BLM Instead of making people unite on an issue that effects all of us, such as police brutality, they have caused for tension to rise and for our division to divert us from fixing the real issues.

This could have been a perfect issue for both black and whites to come together on, and united to progress towards the defeat of racism. Instead they chose to the lazy route and chose tunnel vision versus seeing the big and real issue.
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posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:43 AM
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Remember these cops see training videos , of how many of them get shot killed from normal day to day traffic stop, and they have itchy fingers.

The issue is not going to get fixed by focusing on racism,its going to take education and common sense on the general public


I agree somewhat with the rest of your post, but this seems a bit over the top.

42 police officers were killed in 2015. Over 1,000 civilians were killed by the police.



posted on Jul, 14 2016 @ 09:45 AM
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To the OP...This question

Why do covert racists ignore the facts? when does it stop?

Is this about you? It sure seems like it. The BLM has gotten to big for itself and has been hijacked, like some many other groups. Too bad. If you are suddenly being used to push an agenda then anyone can be part of Black Lives Matter. It is not a private club. It is a movement. They, as an organization, have to take responsibility for those who are feel they are fighting the same cause. The leadership of BLM should have come out and all of them called for non-violence.

LIke this protest this weekend

www.thegatewaypundit.com...



Black Lives Matter leader: Whatever you do, you pull your pistol out and f*cking bust them… Trust me when you see me move, I’m moving in violence. We need action. I don’t give a f*ck if you knock them over, whether you run up on them, whatever you do, you better f*cking take action.


But there is silence from them. Nothing.




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