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Can life be greater than a magical carpenter?

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posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 05:15 AM
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originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

Love cannot be dictated, it has to be given freely. If it's dictated it no longer is love.


Can love really be given freely when there is a penalty of eternal damnation for not giving it?

And can love be given freely when there is a carrot such as eternal life?




posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: Rex282


This is not true.Not one person who has ever lived "chose" to be conceived and be born.Only the deceived believe that.If there is Life without death(Spirit) none have a choice of accepting that Life and to be conceived and born either.The construct of a will free of cause is patently false.There is no such thing as free of causality choices.

No one said anything about choosing to be procreated but since you brought it up it was not God who created you. It was your parents that decided you would exist.

The question was -- "Is that the purpose of life? Are we really created just so we can be thankful?"

The life I understood was the everlasting life after the terrestrial death and that is why I answered "Yes, and if you don't like the idea of everlasting life then you can have it your way and not accept everlasting life. The choice is your own." Even though you had no choice in birth you do have a choice of living forever if you live to an accountable age. That is your choice and yes you should be thankful that you have a Creator that loves you that much to offer you the choice of everlasting life.

The entire purpose of God creating a man and a woman was to eventually build a celestial family who would exist forever with the Creator.

My opinion of course --



posted on Jul, 23 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

Love cannot be dictated, it has to be given freely. If it's dictated it no longer is love.


Can love really be given freely when there is a penalty of eternal damnation for not giving it?

And can love be given freely when there is a carrot such as eternal life?


Forget about God for a second, look at your own life. Can you force someone to love you? Love exists though, and you know you can't force it upon someone. Either they choose to love you, or they dont.

Hell is the separation from GOdin, every good thing that comes from God. It was created for Satan and the fallen angels, but if man doesn't want anything to do with God then He will not force them to be around Him. That's just what Hell is, the absence of God and any quality that comes from Him. Hope, love, joy, peace, security.



posted on Jul, 24 2016 @ 04:01 AM
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a reply to: NOTurTypical

Well to be honest I've never threatened someone I love with eternal damnation or an equally vague eternity of happiness.
If I did have this power I would definitely question their feelings for me however.

Perhaps your feeling are legit tho, what do I know.

I ain't calling you a Gold DIgger...



posted on Jul, 24 2016 @ 06:08 AM
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a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

He will not force people to be with Him for an eternity who don't want to be with Him. I want to, I love the Lord, He is awesome. Call out to Him, simply ask Him to reveal Himself to you if He is real. Just speak to Him like a Father, spill to Him your heart, and just ask Him to show you if He indeed is real. And be keen, and He will respond.



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