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WOW! Larry Elder Deals a Death Blow to BLM

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posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 07:37 PM
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Yes, Larry Elder just smokes anyone he comes up against. I've seen him many times on talk shows.

Always articulate with strong common sense and logic.

And informed.

I'm a fan.





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posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: reldra
If what he says is true, does it mean he got some sort of a free ride into Brown and U of M law school and that his path to the middle class was handed to him?

Why do you always attempt to hijack threads and immediately try to steer them off topic?


Because, based off her constant posts she thinks Hilary is a goddess and blacks aren't capable of succeeding without a handout.

What does that tell you?


Hi Hilary! *waves*

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posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 08:24 PM
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no i don't think so, he's 64 and affirmative action wasn't around when he was a teen and young twenty something.

from his wiki,


Larry Elder was born in Los Angeles and grew up in the city's Pico-Union and South Central areas, Elder attended Washington Preparatory High School and later graduated from Crenshaw High School and earned his B.A.. in political science in 1974 from Brown University. He then earned his J.D. from University of Michigan Law School in 1977.[9] After graduation, he worked with a law firm in Cleveland, Ohio, where he practiced litigation. In 1980, he founded Laurence A. Elder and Associates, recruiting attorneys.


so it looks as if, he did it the old fashion way, own his own.
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posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 08:45 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: Bone75
a reply to: onequestion

Question. If 75% of the murders in Chicago go unsolved, then how does he know that 70% of the murders are black on black?


Good question.

Could it be location specific??

I don't know.


Also, if that 70% figure is based on solved cases, then I wonder just how high the black on black murder rate really is?


Of all murders across the nation, about 1/3rd of murders are unsolved.

Pretty scary, if you think about it. Such a margin of unknown also screws with people trying to prove something based on statistics of those cases that are closed. Worse - murders are one of the most solved crimes.

You don't even want to know how little other types of crimes are solved, it's depressing.

Also fun is to note what 'cleared' means for FBI statistics for such things...
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posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 08:54 PM
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Good post.

It feels nice when I see people, like this man, actually addressing some of the real and major problems that are in the black community. I realize that police sometimes are in the wrong but I think that if a lot of these other problems are addressed and fixed, it would help stop some of the police vs. black madness. For instance, if more black children received the proper parenting that they deserve, maybe these people now wouldn't run into the problems regarding the police. Not justifying police wrongfully killing people but if you aren't walking around committing crimes and trying very hard to be hood and gangster, you might not run into these fatal confrontations. I'm drifting..

I hope to see more of this type of news instead of people killing and people promoting cop killing. Just today I saw a news headline saying that Miss Alabama is calling the Dallas shooter "a martyr".



posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 08:58 PM
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Nobody wants to accept responsibility on the whole, these days. Why bother taking charge of your life when you can lay down and cry victim.



posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: reldra

no i don't think so, he's 64 and affirmative action wasn't around when he was a teen and young twenty something.

from his wiki,


Larry Elder was born in Los Angeles and grew up in the city's Pico-Union and South Central areas, Elder attended Washington Preparatory High School and later graduated from Crenshaw High School and earned his B.A.. in political science in 1974 from Brown University. He then earned his J.D. from University of Michigan Law School in 1977.[9] After graduation, he worked with a law firm in Cleveland, Ohio, where he practiced litigation. In 1980, he founded Laurence A. Elder and Associates, recruiting attorneys.


so it looks as if, he did it the old fashion way, own his own.


Affirmative action started in the 60s. Larry Elder most certainly benefitted from it as schools and many employers were searching for qualified blacks at that time. This is not to say he didn't get ahead based on his own merit, but he most certainly benefitted from affirmative action whether he wants to admit it or not.

I like Larry Elder though.



posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 09:20 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
How does removing welfare stop black fathers from abandoning their kids????

The Fathers aren't taking off because of welfare. They take off because they don't want to be responsible for a kid. Getting rid of welfare won't change that.


Welfare is what started the cultural acceptance of single motherhood in the black community. Prior to the 1960s and LBJs War on Poverty (i.e., welfare), blacks had and out of wedlock birth rate of about 24% and even then it was considered too high. It is now pushing 75%.

Welfare prevented black men from being in the home (you couldn't get benefits if you were married, so men just stopped marrying the women they knocked up).



posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
How does removing welfare stop black fathers from abandoning their kids????

The Fathers aren't taking off because of welfare. They take off because they don't want to be responsible for a kid. Getting rid of welfare won't change that.


It doesn't stop the fathers from taking off. Its stops the mothers from letting them get her pregnant when she knows neither the government nor the father are going to support the kids.



posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: reldra
If what he says is true, does it mean he got some sort of a free ride into Brown and U of M law school and that his path to the middle class was handed to him?

Larry Elder ain't middle class. LOL



posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 09:28 PM
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For one thing, many welfare programs are structured such that it is easier to gain access and aid and more of it if you are a single parent rather than married. So it encourages you not to be married as a seemingly better way to alleviate poverty. The immediate gains realized through the instant access to the higher welfare check and more programs is a bigger and more instant payoff than remaining married with both spouses working steadily to improve their status through education and bettered employment which is the old model most of us "bitter clingers" use.

The catch is that once someone decides to go to self-sufficiency, they risk losing all of their access to programs which often cannot be replaced by entry level work status compensation, so they are trapped despite the future promise of better income than welfare offers down the road.



posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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I am 100% positive there was no affirmative action when he want to law school.

Elder was born in 52 and affirmative action started in 65.
United States

On 24 September 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed Executive Order 11246, thereby replacing Executive Order 10925 and affirming Federal Government's commitment "to promote the full realization of equal employment opportunity through a positive, continuing program in each executive department and agency".[3] Affirmative action was extended to women by Executive Order 11375 which amended Executive Order 11246 on 13 October 1967, by adding "sex" to the list of protected categories. In the U.S. affirmative action's original purpose was to pressure institutions into compliance with the nondiscrimination mandate of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.[22][76] The Civil Rights Acts do not cover veterans, people with disabilities, or people over 40. These groups are protected from discrimination under different laws.


Unless Larry started law school when he was a preteen affirmative action was going on at the time. Anything else you're 100% positive of?



posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: mOjOm

For one thing, many welfare programs are structured such that it is easier to gain access and aid and more of it if you are a single parent rather than married. So it encourages you not to be married as a seemingly better way to alleviate poverty. The immediate gains realized through the instant access to the higher welfare check and more programs is a bigger and more instant payoff than remaining married with both spouses working steadily to improve their status through education and bettered employment which is the old model most of us "bitter clingers" use.

The catch is that once someone decides to go to self-sufficiency, they risk losing all of their access to programs which often cannot be replaced by entry level work status compensation, so they are trapped despite the future promise of better income than welfare offers down the road.
.

Hit the nail squarely on the head.
Case in point, we had a young black couple who had a child. The previous year they were not married and the mother got a $5,200 Tax refund. Fast forward to this year as a married Couple, their combined incomes almost pushed them out of the earned income tax credit and they got a $1,200 refund. They looked at each other and said "Wow, getting married caused that?". In all honesty, they would have been better served at least Tax-wise, living together unmarried. It's kinda messed up when we reward people for not getting married.



posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 10:07 PM
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Very intelligent individual.



posted on Jul, 12 2016 @ 10:53 PM
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that's true, but Kennedy's EO 10925,was more about jobs than collage admissions,by the time Larry Elder was at the age most people start collage, in 1970 he was 18 the Equal Employment Opportunity Act which laid out the framework for Affirmative Action hadn't been passed yet. that didn't happen until 1972.




In 1961, President John Kennedy issued executive order 10925, which created the Committee on Equal Employment Opportunity and mandated that federally funded projects take "affirmative action" to insure that hiring and employment practices were free of racial bias. A few months after outlining the concept of affirmative action in a speech delivered at historically black Howard University, President Lyndon Johnson issued executive order 11246 in 1965, and established enforcement guidelines and documentation procedures for federal contractors. In 1967, the order was amended to cover gender discrimination. In 1969, then President Richard Nixon initiated the "Philadelphia Order", the most forceful plan to date to guarantee fair hiring practices in construction jobs, using the city’s craft trades as a test case.
Government: 1960s-2000s The Beginning and the End of Affirmative Action


In 1972, Equal Employment Opportunity Act was passed, laying the groundwork for affirmative action. I
n 1978, the Supreme Court ruled in Bakke v. Univ. of California that the university could not use fixed quotas in making admissions decisions,

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posted on Jul, 13 2016 @ 12:04 AM
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Apologize for not reading the entire thread but this is a subject I have long been aware of and has been heavy on my mind the last few days (esp being from DFW area)

Don't know how many of our congressmen are aware but certainly some are. If anyone should try to change the program (and I don't know the right way tho I have have some thoughts) they would be called racists and that would be the end of it.

Dem's who put it in place are the race baiters. Repubs and Dems are too afraid of losing their privileged positions that they will continue the status quo to keep their place. And the black community are the losers.

I blame Dems for their baiting to keep the status quo and their position and the gutless Repubs for ignoring the obvious to keep their also extreme people happy.

Seems both sides think the public isn't smart enough to see the obvious...and maybe they are right.

Breaks my heart.



posted on Jul, 13 2016 @ 01:10 AM
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originally posted by: reldra
If what he says is true, does it mean he got some sort of a free ride into Brown and U of M law school and that his path to the middle class was handed to him?


This is the most blatant and obvious strawman I have ever seen. Why does anybody bother responding?



posted on Jul, 13 2016 @ 01:12 AM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: Edumakated

that's true, but Kennedy's EO 10925,was more about jobs than collage admissions,by the time Larry Elder was at the age most people start collage, in 1970 he was 18 the Equal Employment Opportunity Act which laid out the framework for Affirmative Action hadn't been passed yet. that didn't happen until 1972.




In 1961, President John Kennedy issued executive order 10925, which created the Committee on Equal Employment Opportunity and mandated that federally funded projects take "affirmative action" to insure that hiring and employment practices were free of racial bias. A few months after outlining the concept of affirmative action in a speech delivered at historically black Howard University, President Lyndon Johnson issued executive order 11246 in 1965, and established enforcement guidelines and documentation procedures for federal contractors. In 1967, the order was amended to cover gender discrimination. In 1969, then President Richard Nixon initiated the "Philadelphia Order", the most forceful plan to date to guarantee fair hiring practices in construction jobs, using the city’s craft trades as a test case.
Government: 1960s-2000s The Beginning and the End of Affirmative Action


In 1972, Equal Employment Opportunity Act was passed, laying the groundwork for affirmative action. I
n 1978, the Supreme Court ruled in Bakke v. Univ. of California that the university could not use fixed quotas in making admissions decisions,


College, bro, college. Collage is something crafty moms make of baby pictures. You need collage.


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posted on Jul, 13 2016 @ 01:32 AM
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We need more black leaders to stand up and lead the black community in this country. I think that is a large problem that surrounds black crime in poor areas, and other issues that poor black people face.

Who do black kids look up to?

Rappers that glorify violence,drugs, and crime in general.
Sports athletes that glorify the same things as the rappers, and even hang out with the rappers.
The OG sitting in a crack shack collecting cash from all of the kids he supplies.

No one ever talks about these things. It isn't a race issue, it is a locality culture issue. Tons of kids being raised without a dad with siblings from multiple men supported by welfare and low paying jobs. The generations move forward in the reckless manner and then everyone plays dumb trying to figure out what the issue is. It is also frowned upon to want to better their lives. No one wants to be a poindexter Uncle Tom. No one wants to be caught using proper English in fear of being called an Oreo, or acting white. It is a self repressing culture and more strong black men/and women need to stand up and lead the way. Self responsibility is frowned upon as well. Moving out of the hood is considered selling out.

In the USA, being black is a MASSIVE advantage if you choose to use it. Unlimited scholarships and grants for college. Free job placement programs, free technical school, free trade school, priority treatment in just about anything the government offers, affirmative action quotas, and more.

You get the power of fear. The biggest thing feared by businesses, politicians, and people in general, is being called racist. People claim that racial discrimination is this HUGE problem when it comes to employment. Are you kidding me? Do you know what the ramifications are of being sued for racism are? NO corporation that wishes to remain profitable would DARE to face a racial discrimination lawsuit or accusation. Look at what happens to anyone that so called discriminates. This is another falsehood pushed by the media. Look at how many people do not support Trump because he is described as a racist. Look at the "silent Trump supporters." People that do not vocalize the support for Trump out of fear of retaliation. The race card is the ace in the hole for minorities. You can use it at will and reap the benefits at your leisure.

The media props up all of these nonsense lies, such as disproportional incarceration. The black lives matter movement is based on a house of lies. The oppression of blacks in this country is based on excuses and falsehoods.

We have black people in the highest positions in government and business in this country. It is NOT a race issue. Black people are just as capable to achieve whatever they want, and have more options in front of them than the so called white oppressor. This race baiting lie is getting old. The excuses are getting old. I would really like to see some of our black leaders in government trying to focus on solutions as opposed to blaming others.

Please, I know there has to be some strong black people on this website. Step up and lead the way. We need another MLK in this world to put an end to this nonsense. I am sick of the media and political class brainwashing people into perpetual division. If you are here on this website, and you value self reliance, common sense, and racial unity, I will stand behind you in all of your efforts.



posted on Jul, 13 2016 @ 03:52 AM
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He says the biggest problem in the black community is black men not fathering their children.

Thats because theres no jobs in the black community. With what resources does a man father a child if he's unemployed?


He also says that black people have it easier getting into college because of affirmative action. He says because of that they actually have an easier pathway into the middle class.

Except you can't get into college period if you can't pass the entrance exams, no matter how "free" it is. Basic education like a hi school diploma is a minimum prerequisite. If you never got that because you couldn't afford to go to school because dad couldn't get a job to clothe and put food on the table, then where does that leave kids who come from broken homes?

Its a perpetual vicious cycle traveling down the generations. Thats why its called the ghetto...

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